https://uncannyxmen.net/characters/m-ii
Last time we crossed paths with this fiesty lady she had just joined X-Factor Investigations as their tough-as-nails psychic. Since then she's had to deal with the collapse of the team, her own death and resurrection, as well as becoming possesed once again by her brother. On top of that she has had to deal with the romantic advances of a number of suitors...most recently Sabretooth. It must be hard being rich, beautiful, smart and popular. So why not read more about the X-Men's resident IT-Girl in our updated spotlight on...Monet!
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I’ve only read Generation X #1-4 (until it was cancelled for AoA), and those I only read when they came out in 1994. I haven’t read anything else with M in the 1990’s or early aughts until David picked her up for X-Factor.
I’ve always wondered, do y’all think M’s original arc—where she is trapped as Penance while her sisters pass for her as M—was the original author’s intent from her very first appearances? After all, M1, Penance and Emplate all appear right there in issue #1. Or maybe it’s obvious this was a storyline created for her later?
Yeah, Lobdell and Bachalo are on record saying they originally intended for there to be no "real" Monet, just the twins posing as her. Consequently, Penance was NOT the original Monet -- she would have been an entirely different girl.
"If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you." -- Oscar Wilde
Indeed, some of the first clues were when the Age of Apocalypse was released. Monet was no called Know-it-all and was referred to as Claudia. That was apparently one of the first hints that Monet wasn't really Monet.
Later on things got complicated when Tales from the Age of Apocalypse was released a few years later and Nicole and Claudette both appeared. It made it tricky to have the twins also be Know-it-all. Then a few years ago we had the Age of Apocalypse series that resurrected Monet as Lady Penance. There's no doubt this was the real Monet. So there's a big question as to who Know-it-all really was. The simple explanation is the one we've gone for in the bio and that was Know-it-all was really Monet and that she died years ago and was resurrected as Lady Penance.
Everybody is entitled you their opinion...but yours is wrong.
Nice to see Monet's page updated. A very good description of all the events recently, and her updated costumes.
I also love how the X-Factor cover was used to make it into a Gossip cover. I think that's my favorite part. lol
Love the Creed vs. Strong Guy piece on the cover. A really nice touch to a Gossip cover. No gossip is complete without a love triangle. lol Far as trying to analyze which guy won....him. Tricky, but this stuff is fun for me. So i'll try.
Strong Guy
At least she actually went on a date with him. Sadly, it didn't go well & put them on rocky terms for the remainder of the series. I could never read M's feelings on him. He tells her he loves her after he's shot and Monet replies "Sure, I love you too", which didn't seem sincere. It seems she loved him deeply as a friend and tried to give him a chance romantically because of that friendship. But again, didn't go well. Monet was very vocal about thinking he was a monster when she found out he had no soul. So she didn't see him in the same light after that. But he gives a heartfelt speech about his feelings for her, and it seems she did want to give him a chance. I think Layla saw 2 visions and in one, things end badly like they did after the date. Another, is if Monet had gone after him after their fight, they'd have become lovers. So again, confusing. I suppose she loved him as a friend, and it could've been more under the right circumstances -mainly the whole dying & returning with no soul issue. Layla stated Strong Guy was supposed to die, and Monet would've spent the next year grieving him & blaming herself. Sadly, the positive circumstances that could've seen them together don't happen. So romantic feelings didn't have the chance to grown on Monet's end. With a soul, Guido was too shy to confess to her. He had the guts to confess without a soul, but there was too many other issues with that which put a dent in him x Monet. They had potential that fate ruined.
Sabretooth
We never saw them hook up, kiss, or even go on a date,like with Monet did with Guido. So that alone seems to put the former in the lead. Especially the vision Layla had where a possible future was the two becoming lovers, However, we do see a flirtatious side from Monet that she didn't show with Guido. Least not that I recall. When Sabretooth is unpacking the Blackbird, Psylocke leaves to talk with Magneto, then Monet smirks & eyes up Creed, before volunteering to watch him lift stuff. Also, unlike with Guido, many characters have called out both Monet & Creed on appearing to have feelings for each other. Psylocke thinks their fighting is how they flirt & called them Starkweather & Fugate at one point. Callisto, Emplate, Deathstrike, Domino, and Deadpool also made comments on their feelings not seeming platonic. But again, unlike Guido, Monet never shared a date or kiss with Sabretooth.But it does seem romantic feelings were in place with her toward Creed that didn't get to develop with Guido. Things get messy when Weapon X comes into play because we got another writer taking over. When Monet comes up in Weapon X, Creed wants to save her & says the mission isn't about money., then Deathstrike notes that Monet is his ex girlfriend. How seriously to take her comment is questionable, especially with Creed getting defensive about it. Was Pak using Deathstrike as a self-insert to tell fans "Monet is Creed's ex"? Or was it just a simple joke & misunderstanding on Deathstrike's end?
Result
Far as the tally goes. Technically speaking, Guido got further with her on panel seeing as he's shown to have kissed & gone on a date with her. And we saw a vision that they could've become lovers. But if Pak was seriously writing them as being exes, then that implies Creed got further with her since Pak would've written that they were in fact an item when they were together in Bunncanny. Bunn never confirmed or denied anything about their relationship on panel. He never wrote them hooking up, but he never wrote that they didn't hook up either. During Uncanny, did they have feelings they never acted on or were they already secretly together? If Deathstrike's "ex girlfriend" comment is to be taken seriously, then the latter is the spin Pak put on things. He also had a scene of them talking where there's a huge heart behind both of them. Last year, Bunn noted on twitter that Monet & Creed was a torturous love, which confirmed he was writing them romantically. If his run wasn't cancelled, was he gonna show them get together or was he gonna reveal that they already were together?
So this is a controversial & tricky subject. As is the case with pairings. lol Looking at everything we have, it looks like Sabretooth is the winner. Because Monet had the potential to fall for Guido, but circumstances kept those feelings from having a chance to flourish. Meanwhile, it appears her feelings for Sabretooth had already flourished. Going on Bunn's comment, they were in love during his run. And again, Pak may have thought (and written) that they had been together at some point.
But I am not an expert on X-Factor since I wasn't the biggest fan of PAD's handling of Monet. So there are still parts of the run I didn't read. In which case, there could be more case made for Strong Guy by an expert of the run.
Thank you for the kind words. I’d planned to update M for a while but I was waiting for the situation with Emplate to get resolved before I did so. I have to say I love the fact so many writers want to use her, given that other X-Men get thrown into limbo for long periods Monet has done well by getting used a lot.
I got the feeling that the M and Sabretooth may have hooked up in Uncanny but only on an informal basis. It was an odd run with the team seemingly dissolving and drifting apart.
I really hope she pops up in a title after AoXM.
Everybody is entitled you their opinion...but yours is wrong.
No probs. The page looks great. All the perfect panels used & completely up to date. She may pop up in AoX. She was on the beach for the fight, and should've been teleported with everyone else. So we may get to see her in it. But for now, everything's on AoX, Major X, and Uncanny. Surely toward the end of AoX, we'll start getting solicits that mention some more team books besides just Uncanny. lol So hopefully she'll be in a team-lineup where she can really start to get some development. She has good potential, but some writers put her in a rut of just being the bitchy bruiser. There's more to her. And I think Generation X, Bunncanny, and X-Men vol 4 showed that best.
I wish more of M & Creed's relationship had been developed. Both are favorite characters of mine, so having them together would've been great, especially when I didn't care for their other major love interests in the last decade. Long as it didn't get toxic & make them look bad. But their relationship is in the air. Nothing has been solidified on panel and books keep ending without giving any closure on their feelings or what kind of relationship they had. Uncanny ended with Monet possessed & evil from Emplate, then Creed left her off-panel. WX comes in where Creed feels guilty about leaving her and the book ends with him lobotomized & running into the Saskatchewan woods with Monet back in Aspen sadly asking what happened to him. I don't expect them to ever officially get together. But dangling the relationship & leaving it wide open is annoying. Someone tie the thread already.
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