The Next Era of X-Men Starts in 2022

[Blackcyclops]

LETS GO!!!!

https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/news/ ... -xmen-era/

Please let’s not say that “they’re undoing Hickman” anymore lol…

[Gremlin]

Yeah it seems they are building on Hickman’s Krakoa. Looking forward to this. There have been some hits and misses with the Dawn of X titles but I have enjoyed the general direction things have gone in.

[SMidnite]

Things will be looking up once we get past Wolverine.

[Flapflop]

LETS GO!!!!

https://comicbook.com/marvel/amp/news/ ... -xmen-era/

Please let’s not say that “they’re undoing Hickman” anymore lol…

Ok they are not undoing. But didn't Hickman say one of the reasons he is leaving was because he wanted to go quicker to the third act after Dawn of X and Reign of X but Marvel and his co-writers didn't? And now they are going to the third act anyway, just months after he leaves. Its strange at least.

[EphemeristX]

They're clearly not, though. Seems to me like they're writing in a way to stay in act one/two indefinitely.

[Blackcyclops]

Exactly EphX…DoX didn’t even feel like a second act since overall the status quo hasn’t changed. If Inferno does change things then this new series just seems to be the next step, not some type of end game.

I just don’t understand the mentality honestly, like not to be rude or mean, of never being able to just enjoy something in the moment without wondering (usually negatively) about what’s next. Like #1 page one comes out and the first response is some grand conspiracy or theory about why someone screwed over some writer or something and <insert rage>. Like how can you ever enjoy anything?

[XtremeOne1]

Let's all just agree that no they aren't doing away with Hickman's stuff, and yes maybe Hickman moved on(for now?) due to the fact that this new age of X-Men has been a giant creative success and they decided "Let's stay here for a bit and explore it's potential" That's all good stuff and a part of the collaborative and ever evolving process that is comics.

Anyway...Yay, Destiny of X sounds exciting. I hope Moira is still involved. There is so much untapped potential. And I hope Destiny also gets a big show her(I imagine she would, with that title!)

[Flapflop]

Anyway...Yay, Destiny of X sounds exciting. I hope Moira is still involved. There is so much untapped potential. And I hope Destiny also gets a big show her(I imagine she would, with that title!)

I hope shes not, but I think the odds are big that Moira is out after Inferno

[norwichchris]

I doubt it very much think Moira will remain but somehow take out Charles/Magneto from the QC and replace them with Emma and some other people as a punishment for letting Destiny be resurrected and failing to get rid of Nimrod like 100+ times bit ridiculous really.

Moira is the center piece of Hickman's entire run and I strongly suspect he has future plans which Marvel will change/carry on although I do think at the end of Inferno we will have a big reveal she is not what she appears.

Not going to say started of enjoying/understanding his run or found his writing style good enough (X of Swords was dreadful) but yeah think it has paid of and will lead to better things.

I Don't think they will retcon the entire series like Morrison's run but maybe slowly dismantle parts that do not work.

[Nu-D]

I don’t think we can conclude much of anything from this, except that Destiny plays a key role in establishing the next status quo.

They didn’t entirely retcon Morrison’s stories out, but things rapidly drifted back to the familiar spandex styles after he left.This preview doesn’t assure me that the same isn’t in the cards for Krakoa.

On the one hand, for all we know, Moira X will die and we’ll wake up in Westchester in May 2022. Full reboot for everyone except Destiny herself. Just because Destiny remembers Krakoa and rejects Moira X’s theory of history, doesn’t mean we’re guaranteed a continuation from the Krakoa era.

Or it could just subtly drift back to more conventional superheroics. The core titles might follow casts who have left Krakoa, and eventually Krakoa becomes a place like Genosha, where characters are stowed until needed for a story. A few retcons here and there restore some characters to usability. And by May 2023 we’re looking back and thinking that yes, they “undid” Hickman even without retconning it, just like they did for Morrison.

It could be that this is the “third act” Hickman had in mind. But it could also be that it’s a third act in a different direction, delaying his plot to a fourth or fifth act or even bumping it altogether. Or maybe this is just the start of the second act, and he wanted to move faster.

But the one thing I would speculate from this is that Moira’s off the table as a major player. The quote rejects Moira’s view of history—the basis for the birth of the Krakoan era—in favor of Destiny’s. We’ve been told over and over that they’re incompatible. If Moira’s still around she’s in exile and/or out of power. The promo suggests that Destiny’s view of history is ascendant for this next act, and therefore Moira is in retreat or defeated.

[norwichchris]

Well to be honest they did completely retcon Morrison run but over a 10 year period culminating in the House of M series and Decimation. Personally really loved the comics after Morrison left, felt they were some of the finest comics ever written especially Astonishing X-Men and Academy X although they did ruin a lot of it for me with Childhoods end arc though.

Imagine in this case I predict that Krakoa will remain a Mutant sanctuary, the Arrakoan Mutants however will all be wiped out by Nimrod or some other disaster and the Resurrection process will cease.

Think Moira X will be revealed to be an imposter maybe Cassandra Nova who is manipulating both Xavier/Magneto to create a Mutant homeland so she can find forgiveness for the destruction of Genosha much like Wanda for Decimation.

Definitely see more superhero stories but more Mutants version human terror groups.

[Nu-D]

HoM and Decimation did not “retcon” Morrison’s run. The mutant explosion is still continuity. Those stories did not ret(roactively) change con(tinuity). They prospectively changed the status quo, thereby “undoing” what Morrison did.

Which I think we agree is a probable outcome for much of the Krakoa era, if not over the next few months, then probably over the next ten years. I just don’t see the resurrection protocols, the mutant nation, the quiet council, or much of this at all staying central for the next 10+ years. Some might linger in the background, but some of it just isn’t sustainable as a status quo over the long haul.

There just aren’t very many writers interested or capable of writing superheroes as an allegory for Israel. That plot is guaranteed to fade into the background. Resurrection is problematic, and while it presents a half dozen interesting stories, eventually the writers will want to take it off the board. Politics and corporate intrigue will only be of interest to a few writers, and many won’t do it all that well, so that too will fade. And we’ll end up back in classic X-Men territory.

So, let’s enjoy it while it lasts.

[EphemeristX]

There's always a way to take the Res Queue off the board. They already did it once. And I imagine it would be easy enough to simply shift focus away from Krakoa and have it act in the background.

But I disagree that the res queue itself is problematic. If anything, it made the idea of permanent death even scarier. The tension mutants feel in, say, Otherworld is much tighter than any previous death-related tension we've had since maybe Mutant Massacre. When death is inevitable, there's a certain release in it. But when immortality is possible, you become much more concerned with maintaining it.

[Cable]

New promo image

Spoiler: show

[EphemeristX]

What is up with the Warlock armor in those promo shots? Interesting.

[tokenBG1009]

Best guess would be the entire Phalanx/Technarchs

[Nu-D]

Sure looks like they might be dovetailing with the MCU dive into the multiverse. Destiny uses her powers to let mutants chose which possible future to pursue? Multiversal choose your own adventure?

[norwichchris]

Why do all three feature Wolverine?

[Blackcyclops]

Why do all three feature Wolverine?

A wolverine-centric teaser? The first teaser had Destiny’s mask…this one had Logan. Unless there’s no other teaser, can’t really say what this one says (besides looking like allusions to Wolverine’s upcoming mini-series) one way or another


Edit:

Look a Storm centric one…like I said, just marketing

https://www.gamesradar.com/amp/destiny-of-x-marvel/

[EphemeristX]

Here's a second Destiny of X teaser featuring Storm.

Spoiler: show

EDIT: Nvm, BC beat me to it.

[_Rick_]

Those Wolverines seem to be the some of the ones featured in X Lives of Wolverine / X Deaths of Wolverine. I guess that it links directly with Destiny of X.

Basically I think we were supposed to have several events back to back but the scheduling messed up the release of some of them:

Hellfire Gala -> Trial of Magneto -> Inferno -> X Lives of Wolverine / X Deaths of Wolverine -> Destiny of X

[XtremeOne1]

That middle Storm image is sexy. Anyone know where that's from?


Hmm, so if we're going with "Three different destinies" likes speculate wildly and say we're seeing three different worlds, versions of these characters. Let's speculate wildly!

Going by the Storm image
1) Storm staying as the Goddess
2) Storm, Leader of Sol/616 Storm
3) Punk Storm, Leader of the X-Men who are a rag-tag team of heroes/outcasts.

[EphemeristX]

And here's Hope.

Spoiler: show

[Magnus]

The 'different destinies' idea is certainly possible, but for me nothing in those images points to being different "destines" rather than just different times in those character's lives that have already happened. The only future-seeming one is Wolverine with the Phalanx armor.

[Nu-D]

The 'different destinies' idea is certainly possible, but for me nothing in those images points to being different "destines" rather than just different times in those character's lives that have already happened. The only future-seeming one is Wolverine with the Phalanx armor.

Except the big black letters that say “CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY.”