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Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by tokenBG1009 » 13 Apr 2019, 05:27

Well, we're here. The name's been announced. The trailer's been dropped.

https://youtu.be/adzYW5DZoWs


Lando looks pretty fly.

Sure, it's the first trailer and this is what I expected from Abrams, but I'm still disappointed. Still probably going to see it opening weekend to avoid spoilers.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 13 Apr 2019, 12:00

Maybe they shouldn't have waited nine episodes to call this The Rise of Skywalker.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by LimboMaster » 13 Apr 2019, 17:06

Intriguing. Not at all what I expected (and I was especially surprised they billed as the end of a saga ... I thought Disney would drop the 9-movie Lucas plan and just keep the story going with the newbies). I wonder if the title suggests that Rey is indeed a Skywalker in spite of what Ren told her. Seems too obvious of a plot giveaway though. Looks like they found a way to work in at least a clip of Leia filmed from Episode XIII which is surprising since they claimed she wouldn't be in Episode IX when Carrie Fisher died. I, for one, am super excited for this.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by RingOtaku » 13 Apr 2019, 17:15

If this movie makes the bank Disney wants they will just bill the next one as "The Beginning Of The Next Great Saga!". It's marketing you can always spin.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Blackcyclops » 13 Apr 2019, 17:49

Well Rian Williams has a whole other trilogy already in the works
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Nu-D » 13 Apr 2019, 17:51

Reveal: “Skywalker” is not a family surname. It’s a class of Jedi.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by tokenBG1009 » 14 Apr 2019, 14:00

Nu-D wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 17:51
Reveal: “Skywalker” is not a family surname. It’s a class of Jedi.
That's a pretty popular theory. Supposedly in one of the recent books it's revealed that the Chiss word for Jedi is "Skywalker" so it's not without precedent.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Apr 2019, 14:30

tokenBG1009 wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 14:00
Nu-D wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 17:51
Reveal: “Skywalker” is not a family surname. It’s a class of Jedi.
That's a pretty popular theory. Supposedly in one of the recent books it's revealed that the Chiss word for Jedi is "Skywalker" so it's not without precedent.
I mean it is a cool ass name...
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Nu-D » 14 Apr 2019, 17:00

Well, it was my own idea. But when I mentioned it to my wife, she mentioned some people think Palpatine genetically engineered Anakin, and “Skywalker” is the code name of the project. Or some such. It has something to do with midichlorians.

I could also see Rey decide to create a new order, and call them Skywalker instead of Jedi.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by RingOtaku » 14 Apr 2019, 17:46

I just want my Yoda cameo. Have him and force-ghost Obi-Wan heckle the movie during it like Statler and Waldorf. "Mmmm flipping for no reason in fight she is."
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Apr 2019, 20:01

Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 17:00
Well, it was my own idea. But when I mentioned it to my wife, she mentioned some people think Palpatine genetically engineered Anakin, and “Skywalker” is the code name of the project. Or some such. It has something to do with midichlorians.

I could also see Rey decide to create a new order, and call them Skywalker instead of Jedi.
I mean that’s almost the canon. Palpatine used the force to make Anakin’s mom pregnant.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Nu-D » 14 Apr 2019, 21:13

Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 20:01
Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 17:00
Well, it was my own idea. But when I mentioned it to my wife, she mentioned some people think Palpatine genetically engineered Anakin, and “Skywalker” is the code name of the project. Or some such. It has something to do with midichlorians.

I could also see Rey decide to create a new order, and call them Skywalker instead of Jedi.
I mean that’s almost the canon. Palpatine used the force to make Anakin’s mom pregnant.
I think what we know is that:
(1) Anakin’s mom said “there was no father.”
(2) Anakin has extra midiclorians.
(3) Palpatine said his master learned how to use midiclorians to make life. (I don’t really remember this, but my wife says it’s true).

If you add those up, it makes sense to conclude Palpatine created Anakin. But it’s not really canon yet.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Apr 2019, 22:36

Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 21:13
Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 20:01
Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 17:00
Well, it was my own idea. But when I mentioned it to my wife, she mentioned some people think Palpatine genetically engineered Anakin, and “Skywalker” is the code name of the project. Or some such. It has something to do with midichlorians.

I could also see Rey decide to create a new order, and call them Skywalker instead of Jedi.
I mean that’s almost the canon. Palpatine used the force to make Anakin’s mom pregnant.
I think what we know is that:
(1) Anakin’s mom said “there was no father.”
(2) Anakin has extra midiclorians.
(3) Palpatine said his master learned how to use midiclorians to make life. (I don’t really remember this, but my wife says it’s true).

If you add those up, it makes sense to conclude Palpatine created Anakin. But it’s not really canon yet.

Oh the comics have explicitly shown that Palpatine was the “father” by using the force (they didn’t use the word midiclorians...the comics never do)...

And the current comics have shown time and again that they are 100% canon.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Nu-D » 14 Apr 2019, 23:12

Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 22:36
Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 21:13
Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 20:01


I mean that’s almost the canon. Palpatine used the force to make Anakin’s mom pregnant.
I think what we know is that:
(1) Anakin’s mom said “there was no father.”
(2) Anakin has extra midiclorians.
(3) Palpatine said his master learned how to use midiclorians to make life. (I don’t really remember this, but my wife says it’s true).

If you add those up, it makes sense to conclude Palpatine created Anakin. But it’s not really canon yet.

Oh the comics have explicitly shown that Palpatine was the “father” by using the force (they didn’t use the word midiclorians...the comics never do)...

And the current comics have shown time and again that they are 100% canon.
They’re only canon until the screenwriters contradict them.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Magnus » 14 Apr 2019, 23:38

Yeah, my thought on seeing the title was that Rey will become a bigger legend than Luke and company and eventually subsume the name and just become "the Skywalker" to the far-off future.

Given the inclusion of Palpatine's laugh in the trailer and that Ian McDiarmid was present at the reveal, I wonder how much he'll be in the movie. Could easily be that Rey is another Palpatine force-creation like Anakin.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Blackcyclops » 15 Apr 2019, 00:52

Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 23:12
Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 22:36
Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 21:13


I think what we know is that:
(1) Anakin’s mom said “there was no father.”
(2) Anakin has extra midiclorians.
(3) Palpatine said his master learned how to use midiclorians to make life. (I don’t really remember this, but my wife says it’s true).

If you add those up, it makes sense to conclude Palpatine created Anakin. But it’s not really canon yet.

Oh the comics have explicitly shown that Palpatine was the “father” by using the force (they didn’t use the word midiclorians...the comics never do)...

And the current comics have shown time and again that they are 100% canon.
They’re only canon until the screenwriters contradict them.
Well that’s a cynical potential response to anything, everything is true until it isn’t...so I mean *confused face*

So far we’ve seen characters, plot points and concepts move between the mediums. So in current continuity, Anakin was born from the force.

But that wouldn’t affect his surname, since he got it from his mother
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by tokenBG1009 » 15 Apr 2019, 03:30

Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 17:00
Well, it was my own idea. But when I mentioned it to my wife, she mentioned some people think Palpatine genetically engineered Anakin, and “Skywalker” is the code name of the project. Or some such. It has something to do with midichlorians.

I could also see Rey decide to create a new order, and call them Skywalker instead of Jedi.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by Nu-D » 15 Apr 2019, 10:35

Blackcyclops wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 00:52
Nu-D wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 23:12
Blackcyclops wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 22:36



Oh the comics have explicitly shown that Palpatine was the “father” by using the force (they didn’t use the word midiclorians...the comics never do)...

And the current comics have shown time and again that they are 100% canon.
They’re only canon until the screenwriters contradict them.
Well that’s a cynical potential response to anything, everything is true until it isn’t...so I mean *confused face*

So far we’ve seen characters, plot points and concepts move between the mediums. So in current continuity, Anakin was born from the force.

But that wouldn’t affect his surname, since he got it from his mother
I guess my point was that just because the movies took some ideas from the comics, doesn’t mean that everything in the comics is canon for the movies.

In the long run, there will be massive amounts of material in the comics, and eventually the movie writers won’t be keeping up with all of it. And not all of it will be any good, anyhow. Plus, most fans aren’t reading the comics. So there’s neither a guarantee nor a good reason for the movies to commit to being consistent with the comics. Until something actually appears on the screen, I don’t see it as adopted into the movie canon because it could be contradicted down the road.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX

Post by tokenBG1009 » 17 Apr 2019, 12:20

I think the fact that the movies/comics are all under the Disney brand would make it more likely that the continuity is kept. On top of that, the reveal of Anakin's origins is such a major thing to put in the comics I imagine if Disney wanted to go in a different direction it wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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