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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Cable » 07 Jan 2019, 17:17

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Anyhow, does anyone know the cover dates of the Cosmic Spiderman stories where he was joined to Captain Universe and fought the Living Tribunal? It was the Eric Larsen era, probably late 1989, early 1990.
It was 1990, Amazing Spider-Man #328-329, but he fought the Tri-Sentinel, not Living Tribunal.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Nu-D » 08 Jan 2019, 00:24

Cable wrote:
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Nu-D wrote:
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Anyhow, does anyone know the cover dates of the Cosmic Spiderman stories where he was joined to Captain Universe and fought the Living Tribunal? It was the Eric Larsen era, probably late 1989, early 1990.
It was 1990, Amazing Spider-Man #328-329, but he fought the Tri-Sentinel, not Living Tribunal.
It had to have been more than two issues, surely?

I remember it being 6-8 issues across all three Spidey titles (Amazing, Spectacular, Web of). Of course, I remember it being the Living Trbunal so clearly because that’s where I learned who that character was; but i’m worng about that, so Maybe I’m nuts.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Wings » 08 Jan 2019, 01:16

Yeah Spidey fought Titania while he had the Uni-Power in one of the other two titles during the Acts of Vengeance (think that fight was in Spectacular)
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Cable » 08 Jan 2019, 02:46

I've read all of Amazing but never those other spin-offs at the time. I Don't recall it being a direct crossover. I think they were all doing their own thing within the Acts of Vengeance idea. Using Captain Universe powers against Titania sounds like overkill though lol
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by nathanadler » 08 Jan 2019, 11:42

Nu-D wrote:
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It had to have been more than two issues, surely? I remember it being 6-8 issues across all three Spidey titles (Amazing, Spectacular, Web of). Of course, I remember it being the Living Trbunal so clearly because that’s where I learned who that character was; but i’m worng about that, so Maybe I’m nuts.
Your memory is correct, it was more than two issues and occurred across all of the Spidey issues during Acts of Vengeance.

It started with a prologue in Amazing Spider-Man #326, then launched in Spectacular Spider-Man #158 and from there to Web of Spider-Man #59, Amazing Spider-Man #327, Spectacular Spider-Man #159, Web of Spider-Man #60, Amazing Spider-Man #328, Spectacular Spider-Man #160, Web of Spider-Man #61 and Amazing Spider-Man #329 (and a tie-in with Quasar #7).

You are mis-remembering about the Living Tribunal, but that might have been in the What If version!?

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by tokenBG1009 » 08 Jan 2019, 12:30

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Also, I learned I'm terrible at making wagers. I bet I'd buy him breakfast, but he risked nothing if he failed.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Nu-D » 08 Jan 2019, 12:33

tokenBG1009 wrote:
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Also, I learned I'm terrible at making wagers. I bet I'd buy him breakfast, but he risked nothing if he failed.
Perhaps. Perhaps not. He risked indignity and humiliation for his overconfidence. And there’s no guarantee you might have been able to extract a higher price with further negotiations. You may have made the best deal available.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Nu-D » 08 Jan 2019, 12:57

nathanadler wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 11:42
Nu-D wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 00:24
It had to have been more than two issues, surely? I remember it being 6-8 issues across all three Spidey titles (Amazing, Spectacular, Web of). Of course, I remember it being the Living Trbunal so clearly because that’s where I learned who that character was; but i’m worng about that, so Maybe I’m nuts.
Your memory is correct, it was more than two issues and occurred across all of the Spidey issues during Acts of Vengeance.

It started with a prologue in Amazing Spider-Man #326, then launched in Spectacular Spider-Man #158 and from there to Web of Spider-Man #59, Amazing Spider-Man #327, Spectacular Spider-Man #159, Web of Spider-Man #60, Amazing Spider-Man #328, Spectacular Spider-Man #160, Web of Spider-Man #61 and Amazing Spider-Man #329 (and a tie-in with Quasar #7).

You are mis-remembering about the Living Tribunal, but that might have been in the What If version!?
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Using Captain Universe powers against Titania sounds like overkill though lol
You think that’s overkill, in the issue where he gets the powers he fights Paste Pot Pete.

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These were some of the first comics I ever bought. Re-reading them, I am surprised at how Silver Age they are in style. First and foremost, the art in the first few issues is extremely Kirby-influenced. There are silver sic-fi machines that could come right out of FF#1, and the faces and figures are pure Jack Kirby imitation.

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I haven’t started the Erik Larsen issues yet, but I know his art and it’s clearly a post John Byrne/George Perez style, moving these books into the Bronze Age in 1990!
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Post by Nu-D » 08 Jan 2019, 12:59

More Kirby-style:
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The dialogue is clearly aimed at pre-adolescent readers. Chris Claremont it is not. Look at this scene of villains. Four talking heads explaining the plot. It could have been published in 1958:
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Finally, there’s this villain-of-the-month format, and little development of any major plot points over time. There are some long-term Peter Parker plots; but apart from the Acts of Vengeance aspect, the Spiderman plots are all one-and-done villains.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Nu-D » 08 Jan 2019, 13:23

Keep in mind, this is being published at the same time as the X-Men’s “no team” era. By the time these are published, the Dark Phoenix Saga is ten years old and being republished in Classic X-Men. We’re only one year away from McFarlane’s Spiderman #1.

It’s no wonder 12-year-old Nu-D thought Spiderman is “for kids,” and gravitated to the X-Men.

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Post by EphemeristX » 08 Jan 2019, 15:26

If you had not dated them, there was no way I'd have thought they were any later than, say, mid-70s.
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Post by Blackcyclops » 08 Jan 2019, 15:28

Nu-D wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 13:23
Keep in mind, this is being published at the same time as the X-Men’s “no team” era. By the time these are published, the Dark Phoenix Saga is ten years old and being republished in Classic X-Men. We’re only one year away from McFarlane’s Spiderman #1.

It’s no wonder 12-year-old Nu-D thought Spiderman is “for kids,” and gravitated to the X-Men.


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Post by tokenBG1009 » 08 Jan 2019, 23:05

If there was any doubt that things are changing at Marvel/Disney it's the fact the Fantastic Four are starting to show up in mobile games. I'm not even a huge F4 fan, but this is incredible.
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Post by Jazzkantine » 08 Jan 2019, 23:34

Blackcyclops wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 15:28
Nu-D wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 13:23
Keep in mind, this is being published at the same time as the X-Men’s “no team” era. By the time these are published, the Dark Phoenix Saga is ten years old and being republished in Classic X-Men. We’re only one year away from McFarlane’s Spiderman #1.

It’s no wonder 12-year-old Nu-D thought Spiderman is “for kids,” and gravitated to the X-Men.


I agree 100% woth 12-yr-NuD
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Post by EphemeristX » 09 Jan 2019, 01:35

tokenBG1009 wrote:
08 Jan 2019, 23:05
If there was any doubt that things are changing at Marvel/Disney it's the fact the Fantastic Four are starting to show up in mobile games. I'm not even a huge F4 fan, but this is incredible.
Yep. I play Future Fight and I'm super excited to be getting the FF.
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Post by Nu-D » 09 Jan 2019, 11:51

Look at MJ’s amazing, spectacular web of hair courtesy of penciller Colleen Durren (who?) and inker Andy Mushynsky (gotta be a pseudonym, right?)...

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The style in this issue seems straight out of an old romance comic, and it’s not just the sex scenes but the whole issue.

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Post by das_boot » 09 Jan 2019, 12:20

You know, this is possibly one of those rare occasions on which I agree with you, Nu-D. I was put off from reading Spider-Man after picking up a few issues in my early teens and absolutely hating them because I honestly felt very patronised by them. X-Men didn’t make me feel that way, perhaps due to the fact that they just felt more “grown-up”. Even Generation X, which was a teen series, I never felt like my intelligence was being insulted. Hmmmm.

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Post by Nu-D » 09 Jan 2019, 13:22

Don’t get me wrong; I think these comics are a lot of fun. I just think the intended audience are children between the ages of 7 and 9, and growing up in between the decades of 1950 and 1970. I even think there’s an effort by these 30- and 40-something male writers in 1990 to include material they think would interest little girls. The problem is that their idea of what girls like is what they remember from being kids growing up in the 1960’s.

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Post by RingOtaku » 11 Jan 2019, 15:43

So in a rare situation I dreamed up the start of a X-Men fanfic. As in a literal dream played out with Magik and the New Mutants. It started with her having one of her "demon-bound" fits and wanting to "fix" herself via time-travel and ended with an alternate Illyana who had hooked up with a never-died Cypher and I woke up around the time of them arguing about Warlock causing her to have a miscarriage.
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Post by EphemeristX » 11 Jan 2019, 16:17

Haha, weird. Maybe that little ficlet will turn into something. It'd be interesting.
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Post by RingOtaku » 11 Jan 2019, 16:27

Yeah but having not personally experienced it, I'm also really squirmy about doing stories about miscarriages. I thought the most interesting part to me being a nerd was how original Magik didn't immediately vanish when time changed. Basically she's done so many time jumps thanks to Limbo that she built up a tolerance that would mean she had a window of opportunity to see if she actually improved her life before she vanished and only Alt. Illyana remained behind as the native to this timeline.
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Post by Cable » 11 Jan 2019, 17:11

Were you one of the characters in this dream?
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Post by RingOtaku » 11 Jan 2019, 18:05

Nope
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by EphemeristX » 11 Jan 2019, 18:46

I have lots of dreams that I'm not in. Many of mine are cinematic in quality, though. With, like, a score and actors and choreography. I've woken up singing songs that don't exist (or, at least, songs I don't consciously remember).
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Post by Anna Raven » 11 Jan 2019, 19:02

Yeh a lot of my dreams start with me sitting down to watch a movie or tv show and then the dream just becomes the movie or tv show. Then sometimes I will turn up in these shows, but sometimes not.
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