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Wolverine #028

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Wolverine #028

Post by norwichchris » 22 Dec 2022, 13:55

I can't believe no one has done a review of this comic...
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In this exciting issue we get to see it from Mindless Wolverines perspective as he is basically Beast's pet. Eventually Wolverine is sent to assassinate a high ranking anti-mutant General with Beast but just as Beast is about to disable the places security cameras, Wolverine suddenly goes berserk and kills loads of the people along with the General afterwards he tortures him with a choke-collar.

Beast also tricked Hope as he told her that he was running memory experiments on Wolverine when he interrupted his resurrection cycle and she is very unhappy at having to keep it a secret.

There is a diplomatic crisis caused by the events and Beast is asked to appear before the US congress. In between all of this Wolverine escapes and then rescues a young child mutant from falling of a waterfall and then later on Krakoa decides to imprison him in the Pit so he can be the new Sabretooth?

At the end there is a transcript of Beast being subpoened to the US Congress where he blames everything on the X-Desk and reveals there existence
Many people are very unhappy with Beast, honestly wish he was Dark Beast as it would be more interesting story then I could forgive and forget his treatment of Wolverine but he will be down in the hole soon...

This was probably the best story to date which is not much to be honest...

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by das_boot » 24 Dec 2022, 08:19

Wait… Beast was running around directing Wolverine to kill…

The same Beast who was arrested by Domino, Omega Red and Sage last issue of X-Force which was written by the same person who wrote this issue?

… make it make sense (this comment is directed at the writer of these titles, not you NC)
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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by norwichchris » 26 Dec 2022, 17:06

I don't know you lot, this was the best issue of the series (joking) :lol: :lol: :lol:

This issue shows how far Beast has fallen and he will take Xavier with him but not sure that's a bad thing.

Das your point is valid but this has been a constant problem with Marvel lately and its not good enough anymore you had two crisis at the same time which ruined one of them as the other was crap anyway.

Still really wish Beast was Dark Beast it would be for the best, so sick of heroes acting like villains or switching sides it gets to the point where you can't tell them apart anymore.

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by Magnus » 27 Dec 2022, 16:01

das_boot wrote:
24 Dec 2022, 08:19
Wait… Beast was running around directing Wolverine to kill…
The same Beast who was arrested by Domino, Omega Red and Sage last issue of X-Force which was written by the same person who wrote this issue?
… make it make sense (this comment is directed at the writer of these titles, not you NC)
I think it's just meant to be an expansion of the last (Wolverine) issue, occurring before what happened in X-Force #35. Yeah it's a bit annoying they didn't schedule it better but nothing that out of the ordinary.

That said, while I've basically been ignoring these two titles, I decided to take a look and yeesh, this somehow got even worse. Percy has basically straight-up ruined Beast as a character IMO, and I don't think anything beyond an imposter/mind control/etc would be a fix for that. And while that's also a huge cop-out, at least it'd be better than this.

It reminds me a bit of in IDW's Transformers where Prowl (a "I know better than everyone" good guy like Beast) started doing increasingly morally reprehensible things, and then it got revealed he was being mind controlled, and he asked all the other good guys "how could you think it was actually me?" Well because taking good but sometimes morally bendable characters and then making them go down a 'dark path' of doing worse and worse things to the point of outright villainy is usually just bad writing, and that's probably what is happening here.

Not to mention that using a feral Wolverine as an assassin just seems like a really bad idea. You've got an entire island of superhumans and you can't come up with a better way to kill people secretly? Feral Wolverine is the opposite of subtle. I do like the data page of Beast spinning things around on X-Desk/Danger with the robot doubles. There's a better plot there where his use of Wolverine in such a ham-fisted way is on purpose so he can get 'caught' and set up that reveal, but given how angry he gets at Wolverine this clearly was just a seat-of-his-pants save and notplanned.

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by norwichchris » 28 Dec 2022, 05:48

I wonder why though they felt the need to ruin Beast? it would have been better in the long run if it had been dark beast as although being the same person he was much more viscous than Beast and it did make sense. They could then have Beast/Wolverine trying to make amends and Beast hopefully being redeemed but not know... Maybe Percy hates Beast and wants to ruin him as a character?

I agree do recall IDW Prowl, it is very poor story-telling but it can be really good if done correctly but it seems almost like they are trying to turn Krakoa into the bad guy here.

Yes there are many more mutants who would be perfect but feel Wolverine would be a "fear factor" state than anything else Beast is basically saying "Don't mess with us as we have the Best there is and you will be very dead if you do"

How will this affect Xavier though?

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by das_boot » 28 Dec 2022, 12:50

I mean at risk of defending the indefensible…

No. Sorry no. I can’t do it. I had a whole spiel in my head about how Beast has always been the one who’s put himself at the forefront of protecting mutants, whether that’s obsessing over the Legacy Virus, or searching for how Wanda turned off the X-Gene, or wanting to show Scott the error of his ways by bringing back the O5, but no. At this point Beast is firmly in villain territory and any attempt to rehabilitate him after this is going to be a LONG process without being a cop-out
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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by Holland Oates » 28 Dec 2022, 18:12

Have Sinister and Beast been shown to interact this year? I’m drawing a blank. But I’m curious what he would think of McCoy’s current Sinisteresque actions.

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by Magnus » 28 Dec 2022, 18:40

Holland Oates wrote:
28 Dec 2022, 18:12
Have Sinister and Beast been shown to interact this year? I’m drawing a blank. But I’m curious what he would think of McCoy’s current Sinisteresque actions.
Not directly interacted, but there is a scene in Immortal X-Men #9 (spoilered out of abundance of caution):
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Sinister to Dark Beast: "You're not even the darkest Beast anymore."

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by Holland Oates » 29 Dec 2022, 00:42

Interesting. Thank you.

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Re: Wolverine #028

Post by norwichchris » 29 Dec 2022, 13:59

I think my opinion of Beast using Wolverine in this way is more sending a statement is accurate. However I would ideally like to see some of the more violent mutants show up in X-Force or maybe a Brotherhood of Mutants comic would be a nice idea.

How will Beast treatment of Wolverine affect Xavier's leadership of Krakoa?

Beast defense I think will be "I had to do everything I did to ensure that Krakoa would survive" but that won't work out well as he had plenty of other Mutants he could have used and I would like to have seen to do assassination jobs he just used Wolverine to send a message to everyone and that was it.

He is now ruined forever as a character and really wish he had been Dark-beast just for the sake of future stories he maybe a hero in or whatever. That really is the problem with having previously morally good characters go down such dark roads there is a limit to what you can/can't do and it will impact on future stories which is why despise them doing it so often especially with "TMFKAA".

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