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Excalibur #21

Post by Blackcyclops » 09 Jun 2021, 11:27

Noooooo Pete!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Flapflop » 09 Jun 2021, 12:12

Blackcyclops wrote:
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Noooooo Pete!!!!!!!!!!
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That was gruesome. But he will be resurected by the five probably
And what wil Gambit plans be like he says now Roque is on the X-men?
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Blackcyclops » 09 Jun 2021, 12:53

Well they first gotta find out he’s dead!
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by norwichchris » 09 Jun 2021, 15:58

Blackcyclops wrote:
09 Jun 2021, 12:53
Well they first gotta find out he’s dead!
He called out to Betsy just as he was killed so likely they know he's dead but will he be more loyal to Krakoa now rather than Britain?

Glad Star and Rictor made up in the end after his clumsy attempt to get back together with him.

I'm so happy Morgan is back so she can wreck revenge on Excalibur and Mutantkind maybe she will be a part of Inferno? can see Mystique enlisting her aide.

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Blackcyclops » 09 Jun 2021, 16:57

Why would Mystique work with a magic user who hates mutants? And why would she help another mutant? Like no need to bring Mystique and Inferno theories into every thread..
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Cable » 09 Jun 2021, 17:24

When the credits page mentioned Excalibur earning a night off, I thought this might be a lighter issue. As we saw with Pete, is definitely not lol. I find myself kind of wishing it was. On the one hand, it is good that there are substantial developments being set up by this event. On the other hand, the best moments here were the personal ones: the congratulations toward Rogue, Brian and Meggan's interaction with Nightcrawler, Rachel's dance with Betsy, the reconciliation of Rictor and Shatterstar. I could have used more moments like that instead of the Coven subplot that I don't particularly care for.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by norwichchris » 09 Jun 2021, 18:04

BC.... Mystique wants to burn Krakoa to the ground

Rictor is being strange to me though over "A" not being around can he not go and find him in exile?

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Gremlin » 09 Jun 2021, 18:19

So is Meggan pregnant again? Going by the interaction with Brian and what Nightcrawler said it sure seems like it. Wouldn’t it be funny if it was Kurt’s from when he and Meggan got it on in the Age of X-Man…
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by tokenBG1009 » 09 Jun 2021, 18:37

Meggan is almost certainly pregnant.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Cable » 09 Jun 2021, 19:07

Gremlin wrote:
09 Jun 2021, 18:19
So is Meggan pregnant again? Going by the interaction with Brian and what Nightcrawler said it sure seems like it. Wouldn’t it be funny if it was Kurt’s from when he and Meggan got it on in the Age of X-Man…
I am not sure funny is the word. Horrifying maybe...
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Gremlin » 09 Jun 2021, 21:07

Yeah I was trying to find a word to use there but I genuinely didn’t know what word fit properly.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Cable » 09 Jun 2021, 21:54

Also fun fact for those who may not know: in the scene where Rictor and Shatterstar first meet again, the woman between Sync and Storm is Tini Howard herself.
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X-titles: Excalibur #22 by Tini Howard (3) and Marcus To (3)
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Lavettye » 09 Jun 2021, 22:53

A good issue, in that it manages to propel its own plots forward despite being part of a large crossover. But at the same time the same problem continues. There's an intresting story going on, and it fits Excalibur and Capt. Britain in particular, and it Rictor's druid theme, but I still don't understand why some of these characters are here or act the way they do. Like Jubilee... really? Instead of being in Krakoa with all her friends, she is in Excalibur to fight for country not her own and to ever so often be transported to a magical realm where her baby son turns into a giant flying dragon? Responsible parenting 101.

And Gambit never wanted to be here in the first place aside from being with Rogue, but now he stays without her? Hopefully when they bring in new cast members in a less forced way, that book will have a chance to truly shine.

Meggan being pregnant and Brian still being clueless about it when Kurt immediately picked up on the little details signaling it (choice of beverage, body language) was cute.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by tokenBG1009 » 09 Jun 2021, 23:55

I don't think Gambit is entirely staying with Excalibur is he? It sounds like he may move to a "Guest starring" role as he and Rogue talk about him having a room in the lighthouse which sounds more temporary to me. He even states he has his own plans.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by das_boot » 10 Jun 2021, 08:37

I thought the line about Gambit having “his own plans” was him implying that he and Rogue aren’t joined at the hip and he can do things without her?

Either way, I enjoyed this issue, but I typically do always enjoy Excalibur. I’m glad that the Coven story is progressing, as well as the Rictor/Druid story.

Got to be honest— I could do without Shatterstar/Rictor being a thing again, if just because it seemed like such a brutal break up when Rictor’s mentioned it previously, but whatever 🤷‍♂️

Poor Pete Wisdom!
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by norwichchris » 10 Jun 2021, 11:10

Is Excalibur getting the Axe though anyway? can't really see any of the cast staying as they were all thrown together except maybe Betsy and Meggan.

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Blackcyclops » 10 Jun 2021, 11:47

norwichchris wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 11:10
Is Excalibur getting the Axe though anyway? can't really see any of the cast staying as they were all thrown together except maybe Betsy and Meggan.

Excalibur is still being solicited. So no.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Wings » 10 Jun 2021, 13:08

das_boot wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 08:37
I thought the line about Gambit having “his own plans” was him implying that he and Rogue aren’t joined at the hip and he can do things without her?

Either way, I enjoyed this issue, but I typically do always enjoy Excalibur. I’m glad that the Coven story is progressing, as well as the Rictor/Druid story.

Got to be honest— I could do without Shatterstar/Rictor being a thing again, if just because it seemed like such a brutal break up when Rictor’s mentioned it previously, but whatever 🤷‍♂️

Poor Pete Wisdom!
I don't think they actually broke up. I think Shatterstar ended up in Mojoworld again while Age of X-Man was still happening. That's why he's surprised that Rictor's alive. Then Rictor came back, but Shatterstar was gone.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Holland Oates » 10 Jun 2021, 13:45

Rictor's not fun anymore.

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Blackcyclops » 10 Jun 2021, 14:45

Wings wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:08
das_boot wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 08:37
I thought the line about Gambit having “his own plans” was him implying that he and Rogue aren’t joined at the hip and he can do things without her?

Either way, I enjoyed this issue, but I typically do always enjoy Excalibur. I’m glad that the Coven story is progressing, as well as the Rictor/Druid story.

Got to be honest— I could do without Shatterstar/Rictor being a thing again, if just because it seemed like such a brutal break up when Rictor’s mentioned it previously, but whatever 🤷‍♂️

Poor Pete Wisdom!
I don't think they actually broke up. I think Shatterstar ended up in Mojoworld again while Age of X-Man was still happening. That's why he's surprised that Rictor's alive. Then Rictor came back, but Shatterstar was gone.
Yeah I think Wings might be right. Did Rictor ever explicitly say they broke up?
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by norwichchris » 10 Jun 2021, 15:10

I think its more than that with Rictor he is trying to get over TMFKA no longer being a part of his life and is so angry he lashes out at Shatterstar over it.

Also actually rather enjoyed these last couple of issues more since TMFKA has left although do feel they are not really a team and hope after the Gala we have a team who are more cohesive and maybe combating Magical threats to Mutant-kind.

Do see Mystique using Morgan to destroy or seek revenge on Magneto/Xavier for not reviving Destiny. Maybe the other way around it could happen?

So the UK has completely cut of all ties with Krakoa even returning there drugs? sounds like Brexit.

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by XtremeOne1 » 10 Jun 2021, 15:36

norwichchris wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 15:10

Do see Mystique using Morgan to destroy or seek revenge on Magneto/Xavier for not reviving Destiny. Maybe the other way around it could happen?
So while I know you're very excited for Inferno, as BC has already stated, there is no need to bring everything back to Inferno and/or Trail of Magneto. This book has little to no connection to the main happenings with Mystique/Magneto. And Mystique hasn't appeared in this issue(or any issue). And thus far, we've seen zero evidence Morgan would want to work with Mystique. Or that Morgan cares about Magneto or Xavier. Let's try and keep things focused on this issue and not run rampant with speculation concerning other books/crossover that are happening in the future, as we don't want to turn this into a "What will happen in Inferno" thread.

Let's stay on topic and focus on discussion for Excalibur.

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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by ultimatekey » 10 Jun 2021, 15:39

Blackcyclops wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 14:45
Wings wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 13:08
das_boot wrote:
10 Jun 2021, 08:37
I thought the line about Gambit having “his own plans” was him implying that he and Rogue aren’t joined at the hip and he can do things without her?

Either way, I enjoyed this issue, but I typically do always enjoy Excalibur. I’m glad that the Coven story is progressing, as well as the Rictor/Druid story.

Got to be honest— I could do without Shatterstar/Rictor being a thing again, if just because it seemed like such a brutal break up when Rictor’s mentioned it previously, but whatever 🤷‍♂️

Poor Pete Wisdom!
I don't think they actually broke up. I think Shatterstar ended up in Mojoworld again while Age of X-Man was still happening. That's why he's surprised that Rictor's alive. Then Rictor came back, but Shatterstar was gone.
Yeah I think Wings might be right. Did Rictor ever explicitly say they broke up?
In Iceman Vol 3, Rictor said that he and Shatterstar decided to take a break.

In Shatterstar vol 2, it was once again mentioned and emphasized that Shatterstar and Rictor are no longer dating.

In New Mutants: Dead Souls, Shatterstar was seen having brunch with Boom Boom and Rictor. Also, in a later issue, Shatterstar was seen with no clothes on at Rictor's House.

And for those of you who did not read the latest issue of X-Factor,
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After the Morrigan was defeated by Shatterstar, a curse was placed on him and Rictor since their hearts are intertwined.

That is most likely the reason why Shatterstar is covered in blood and half-dressed. It's Morrigan's blood all over his body.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by Monolith » 10 Jun 2021, 17:50

It feels like Gambit is not going to be around anymore, just "keeping a room" at the lighthouse. With him and Rogue out, it feels like this issue was setting up Prestige and Wisdom taking their place. Rachel would be finding another home after X-Factor is cancelled. And if Wisdom is resurrected on Krakoa, given the influence of Coven Akkaba in the UK, it seems possible he either won't be welcome back to Britain, won't want to go back, or both.

Meggan being pregnant again so soon after Maggie seems...ominous to me. My first off-the-wall guess is that King Arthur will somehow be reincarnated through her child, and Coven Akkaba will try to claim it.
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Re: Excalibur #21

Post by norwichchris » 10 Jun 2021, 17:54

Think Gambit will return to Krakoa and mostly the entire team will disband with the exception of Rictor and Betsy. I see it being Mutants dealing with mystical threats to Krakoa rather than standard Human vs Mutants so a new team will form with this in mind.

Why would King Arthur reincarnate?

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