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Legion of X #4

Post by Blackcyclops » 03 Aug 2022, 14:45

I friggin knew it! Great last page(s) reveal…I very much look forward to the conclusion of this arc.
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by das_boot » 04 Aug 2022, 16:19

Issue of the week for me, but my BAMF bias is showing heavily here.

This was excellent, I thoroughly enjoy this every month (although it bothers me that due to timing, this is set waaaaaaay before AXE). The art is wonderful, the plot is a delight, and the writing just pops. Ugh. Love this.
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Blackcyclops » 04 Aug 2022, 16:53

Its wild that in 1 week we didn’t get a single weak x-title.
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
-Cly

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by das_boot » 04 Aug 2022, 17:17

Blackcyclops wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 16:53
Its wild that in 1 week we didn’t get a single weak x-title.
The power of a week without X-Force, Wolverine or Marauders 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Blackcyclops » 04 Aug 2022, 17:23

das_boot wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 17:17
Blackcyclops wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 16:53
Its wild that in 1 week we didn’t get a single weak x-title.
The power of a week without X-Force, Wolverine or Marauders 🤷‍♂️

I won’t let you shat on Marauders…art aside, I like it
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Magnus » 05 Aug 2022, 03:22

Interesting, so the Arakki god on the run was Loki... in a way... lol

I like Zsen calling out Nightcrawler on how flexible/vague his interpretation of the law is, and Nightcrawler suggesting it's a feature, not a bug.
Blackcyclops wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 16:53
Its wild that in 1 week we didn’t get a single weak x-title.
Kinda annoys me they put all the good titles in one week and then another week we get nothing except Gambit :lol:

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Monolith » 05 Aug 2022, 12:13

Kurt already addressed it in Way of X:

"A bad law is just a rule. A good law allows for the flexibility of the human heart."
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Cable » 05 Aug 2022, 17:10

So in one week we got a book about the power of faith and another about the weaknesses of faith. Coincidence or Jordan White being clever? 🤔

I feel like this is the issue we have been waiting for since Way of X started, where Kurt really dives down into his beliefs in the face of the new era. Where he ends up is still to be determined but I enjoy the journey.

Mental exercise: If it came down to throwing Nightcrawler in the pit or not (is it even still a thing after Sabretooth?), how would each member of the Council vote?
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X-titles: Immortal X-Men #5 by Kieron Gillen (4) and Michele Bandini (2)
Non-X titles: Moon Knight #14 by Jed MacKay (2) and Alessandro Cappuccio (1)

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Monolith » 05 Aug 2022, 17:27

CASE: Nightcrawler (Kurt Wagner)

CHARGE: Violation of the Third Law. Interpretation of "Respect this sacred land" to mean "Respect the authority of the Quiet Council", i.e., letting them judge people instead of letting the Legion do it.

EVIDENCE: Argument whether Nightcrawler, as a member of the Council, has / should have the right to judge cases without the full council's presence.

VERDICT:
Professor X - GUILTY. Because douche.
Destiny - Probably NOT GUILTY. Specifically to rib Xavier, but she always knows more than we do.
Hope - NOT GUILTY.

Storm - NOT GUILTY.
Colossus - NOT GUILTY. Sleeper agent in Colossus's head - Possibly GUILTY.
Nightcrawler - NOT GUILTY if allowed a vote.

Kate Pryde - NOT GUILTY.
Emma Frost - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on her mood, and the votes of others.
Sebastian Shaw - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on his mood, and the votes of others.

Mister Sinister - Probably GUILTY.
Exodus - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on his interpretation of the Spark and Kurt's "good works".
Mystique - Probably NOT GUILTY. Because he supported Destiny, because she doesn't care, etc.

2 - 6 GUILTYS.
5 - 9 NOT GUILTYS.
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Holland Oates » 05 Aug 2022, 17:38

Cable wrote:
05 Aug 2022, 17:10
So in one week we got a book about the power of faith and another about the weaknesses of faith. Coincidence or Jordan White being clever? 🤔

I feel like this is the issue we have been waiting for since Way of X started, where Kurt really dives down into his beliefs in the face of the new era. Where he ends up is still to be determined but I enjoy the journey.

Mental exercise: If it came down to throwing Nightcrawler in the pit or not (is it even still a thing after Sabretooth?), how would each member of the Council vote?

…but he teleports

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Cable » 05 Aug 2022, 18:17

Holland Oates wrote:
05 Aug 2022, 17:38
Cable wrote:
05 Aug 2022, 17:10
So in one week we got a book about the power of faith and another about the weaknesses of faith. Coincidence or Jordan White being clever? 🤔

I feel like this is the issue we have been waiting for since Way of X started, where Kurt really dives down into his beliefs in the face of the new era. Where he ends up is still to be determined but I enjoy the journey.

Mental exercise: If it came down to throwing Nightcrawler in the pit or not (is it even still a thing after Sabretooth?), how would each member of the Council vote?

…but he teleports
They will find a reason to throw Leech into the Pit too. Problem solved.
Best Comics of Week 31

X-titles: Immortal X-Men #5 by Kieron Gillen (4) and Michele Bandini (2)
Non-X titles: Moon Knight #14 by Jed MacKay (2) and Alessandro Cappuccio (1)

In parentheses number of times creator had best comic this year

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by Blackcyclops » 05 Aug 2022, 18:28

Even better, instruct Krakoa to sap enough energy from him so that his powers don’t work…

I have to say, the composite Trickster god look pretty bad-ass.
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
-Cly

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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by das_boot » 06 Aug 2022, 08:11

Monolith wrote:
05 Aug 2022, 17:27
CASE: Nightcrawler (Kurt Wagner)

CHARGE: Violation of the Third Law. Interpretation of "Respect this sacred land" to mean "Respect the authority of the Quiet Council", i.e., letting them judge people instead of letting the Legion do it.

EVIDENCE: Argument whether Nightcrawler, as a member of the Council, has / should have the right to judge cases without the full council's presence.

VERDICT:
Professor X - GUILTY. Because douche.
Destiny - Probably NOT GUILTY. Specifically to rib Xavier, but she always knows more than we do.
Hope - NOT GUILTY.

Storm - NOT GUILTY.
Colossus - NOT GUILTY. Sleeper agent in Colossus's head - Possibly GUILTY.
Nightcrawler - NOT GUILTY if allowed a vote.

Kate Pryde - NOT GUILTY.
Emma Frost - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on her mood, and the votes of others.
Sebastian Shaw - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on his mood, and the votes of others.

Mister Sinister - Probably GUILTY.
Exodus - QUESTIONABLE. Depends on his interpretation of the Spark and Kurt's "good works".
Mystique - Probably NOT GUILTY. Because he supported Destiny, because she doesn't care, etc.

2 - 6 GUILTYS.
5 - 9 NOT GUILTYS.
While I love everything about this, I honestly think Emma is a solid Not Guilty— in the rare instances where she and Kurt have interacted, she seems to be rather fond of him in a way that she isn’t of a lot of other X-Men
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Re: Legion of X #4

Post by tokenBG1009 » 06 Aug 2022, 17:50

In the weirdest argument for Emma's adoration of Kurt, she was one of the names mentioned in her kinda sweet/kinda weird discussion about her grey hairs. So she's pretty firmly in the Not Guilty in my opinion. I think Mystique and Destiny would both be in Not Guilty as well due to family relationship. Rogue would basically skewer them both if they put Kurt in the pit.
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