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AiPT Interview with Jordan D. White about Inferno

Post by EphemeristX » 17 Jan 2022, 18:28

This week's X-Men Monday deals with Inferno and its fallout.

There are some very enlightening tidbits in this interview, some of them directly relating to questions and arguments we've had on this very board.
AIPT: Thanks for sharing all that. OK, time for some comic questions. X-Fan Wilson was curious about the telekinesis Xavier used when battling Nimrod. Has Charles made some tweaks and improvements to his genetics through the Resurrection Protocols?

Jordan: No. We talked about that, though — Me and Jon — because yeah, it was sort of a thing, like, does he have telekinesis? And the answer is, if you look over the years, it’s certainly not the thing he does the most, but there are times when he has been shown to use it.

And the thought was, this is the most desperate hour, he’s giving it everything he can, he’s pouring all he has into this because it’s not something he normally does, but it also is really useful in that moment.
So, apparently, the current X-Office is under the impression that Xavier does in fact have telekinesis, but it's something he doesn't use unless in desperation.
AIPT: Since House of X #2, we’ve been under the impression that if Moira dies, the Marvel Universe as we know it ends. Is the idea behind using Forge’s depowering gun on Moira that without her mutant power, reality is safe? Or is there a possibility that human Moira one day chokes on a croissant and everything still ends?

Jordan: Yeah, no, her power has been removed. Her power has been turned off. That is the whole reason that they did it.
Moira will not reset the universe if she dies now.
AIPT: {sic} X-Fan Braxer wanted to know what’s in the box Mystique gave Emma — which you can’t answer, because that’s a spoiler question. But possibly, you could tell readers where and when they can expect this to be resolved.

Jordan: You’ll find out this month.
There you guys go.

There's some other fun stuff, reaffirming that Rosenberg's run was supposed to be death heavy because of HoX/PoX's imminent arrival. And that Destiny of X as an imprint starts with Immortal X-Men #1, so X-Lives/X-Deaths is still part of Reign. And that Nimrod and Omega don't actually realize that they stopped Xavier and Magneto from getting that info back to the mutants with their deaths.
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Post by Blackcyclops » 17 Jan 2022, 20:19

It feels good to be right like this…

Except the Xavier thing…which I know Brian Cronin did a spotlight on it years ago but I just thought the post-Silver Age Marvel just dropped it.
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
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Post by clayford » 17 Jan 2022, 20:28

The only thing I could find past the Silver Age was Uncanny X-Men vol. 1 #98 where he blasts a Sentinel with "a mindblast" that seemed to be concussive force. Marvel wiki seems to imply that there is evidence in Cassandra Nova's use of TK that proves Xavier must have it to some extent.
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Post by Magnus » 17 Jan 2022, 21:13

The Xavier thing is pretty much what I was thinking, I remember him using telekinesis in his early appearances so I thought it might be something he only can do when truly desperate. (Either that, or he was telepathically making Nimrod disassemble himself.)

As for the box, good to know it'll be touched upon. If I was going to bet I would've said it was going to be completely forgotten.

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Post by Blackcyclops » 17 Jan 2022, 22:56

Magnus wrote:
17 Jan 2022, 21:13
The Xavier thing is pretty much what I was thinking, I remember him using telekinesis in his early appearances so I thought it might be something he only can do when truly desperate. (Either that, or he was telepathically making Nimrod disassemble himself.)

As for the box, good to know it'll be touched upon. If I was going to bet I would've said it was going to be completely forgotten.

I should’ve bet against aLl yalls pessimism lol
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Post by clayford » 18 Jan 2022, 02:10

Yeah ummm... once all the crap went down with the neutralizer I just completely forgot that the box was even a thing...
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Post by das_boot » 18 Jan 2022, 09:22

Honestly? I really feel like a lot of times it’s just assumed that telepaths have telekinesis too… if they’d said it was a result of his power expansion post resurrection I’d have actually been happier with it than “nope he’s always had it”
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Post by Flapflop » 18 Jan 2022, 10:21

They’re very connected. Yeah. You know what, I’ll come right out and tell you, you will know the connection and it will be clearly shown with X Deaths of Wolverine #1. X Lives of Wolverine #1 is kicking off the story in a huge, awesome way. But X Deaths is where the Inferno connection comes out. And it’s a big connection. It’s a very big connection.
I think Wolverine must either stop Moira from dying in the past (wich will still reset everything) and/or from Omega Sentinel to come live. Someting in the past at least that threatens Krakoa present and future
So when Matt Rosenberg started his run after “X-Men Disassembled,” where things were going very dark and characters were dying, we did that with the full knowledge that we were about to resurrect them. We would not have killed that many characters if we didn’t know for a fact they were going to come back a couple of months later. That would’ve been a bad idea because we would’ve been taking characters off the board for no reason. We went in saying to Matt, “Here’s what we’re going to be doing, so let’s do what we want to build up to that.”
Still have a feeling Rosenberg just wast said you can do everything you want, we don't even edit it because everything will be annulled anyway. Think Rosenberg didn't like it at all he basically was a in betweener that didn't matter but the money was good enough to take the job anyway.

I also still believe the Trirumvirate just killed everyone offscreen between end of Rosenbergs run and start House of X and wiped their knowledge up to a point in the resurrection process.
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Post by EphemeristX » 18 Jan 2022, 12:54

And I’ve talked a bunch about how to me, that run represents the end of the extinction era of X-Men. So I think it was thematically good and important to wring the last juice out of this — the dourness of mutants being an endangered species and tragedy always befalls us. We were wringing the last sad drops out of that rag before knowing we’re about to revamp that.
That sounds like they did want to do a bunch of deaths and it wasn't just Rosenberg's idea.
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Post by Blackcyclops » 18 Jan 2022, 13:53

Flap, why can’t you just accept what is? Nothing and I mean nothing in interviews or the books support that idea. Why can’t you just let it go?
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
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Post by Usernamenotimportant » 18 Jan 2022, 15:32

Blackcyclops wrote:
18 Jan 2022, 13:53
Flap, why can’t you just accept what is? Nothing and I mean nothing in interviews or the books support that idea. Why can’t you just let it go?
If there's one thing the last few years have shown the world, is that people won't give up on ideas they enjoy even if goes against established facts, scientific proof, or plain common sense.

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Post by Flapflop » 19 Jan 2022, 09:49

Blackcyclops wrote:
18 Jan 2022, 13:53
Flap, why can’t you just accept what is? Nothing and I mean nothing in interviews or the books support that idea. Why can’t you just let it go?
How would you feel if, as a big X-men fan and writer wanting to write good stories, they say your basically an inbetweener and everything you do will mean nothing from the getgo?

I just theorise, i never say they are facts. I just interpret what i read and hear, not only in the factual issues but also on newssites and in interviews online (also between the lines).

But i will stop my theories, I just keep them for myself. They are not wanted i see, while other theories on this forum are.

I stay to the facts and keep my mouth shut otherwise.
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Post by WorldWideWade » 19 Jan 2022, 19:12

Flapflop wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 09:49
How would you feel if, as a big X-men fan and writer wanting to write good stories, they say your basically an inbetweener and everything you do will mean nothing from the getgo?
Hey Flap, I don't think anyone was referring to the Rosenberg comments. I made similar theories myself about his run and I think this interview sheds some light on those theories at least being fairly plausible.

The one BC was referring to was your idea that Xavier and Magneto killed and resurrected all of the main X-men characters in order to wipe their minds or whatever. That is the theory you have stated multiple times that has frustrated some people on this board.

Nobody is saying that you cannot state your theories but I think some of the more regular posters get frustrated because of the way this theory has been brought up so many times even though there is no evidence to support it. Just the idea of that being true is a pretty out there concept that would be quite upsetting and could be considered a jumping the shark type of reveal. Thus I understand other posters instinct to reject it.
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Post by Blackcyclops » 19 Jan 2022, 19:27

Yeah it’s nothing against you personally Flop or any theories you had more broadly but it’s only so many times in the three years since HoX/PoX began that a theory that is pretty far out there can be repeated without at least kinda becoming alittle grating…

I mean if you in 2030 end up being right, I’ll Venmo you $25 bucks but right now it just seems about as likely as covid disappearing tomorrow.
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Post by Flapflop » 19 Jan 2022, 21:29

WorldWideWade wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 19:12
The one BC was referring to was your idea that Xavier and Magneto killed and resurrected all of the main X-men characters in order to wipe their minds or whatever. That is the theory you have stated multiple times that has frustrated some people on this board.
Blackcyclops wrote:
19 Jan 2022, 19:27
Yeah it’s nothing against you personally Flop or any theories you had more broadly but it’s only so many times in the three years since HoX/PoX began that a theory that is pretty far out there can be repeated without at least kinda becoming alittle grating…

I mean if you in 2030 end up being right, I’ll Venmo you $25 bucks but right now it just seems about as likely as covid disappearing tomorrow.
Then its my mistake i interpreted the criticism for áll my theories. Mea Culpa.
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