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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Blackcyclops » 13 Feb 2020, 09:40

“Ghetto flair”?

Yeah Daken is too bulky. I think they’re going more Logan with his stature.

I love Northstar’s look and Rachel’s too...the aesthetic is incredibly in-fashion...unlike her mother!
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by tokenBG1009 » 13 Feb 2020, 10:22

It's all very "Krakoan" style clothing.

It does nothing for me or to me.
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Lavettye » 13 Feb 2020, 13:19

Blackcyclops wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 09:40
“Ghetto flair”?
It wasn't meant offensive in any way. I was thinking about (my limited understanding of) stereotypical street wear items one might rather asscoiate with hip hoppers, gang members or "people from the 'hood". It seems weird as Eye-Boy never has been portrayed in such clothing before, and such categories or labels should no longer exist on Krakoa.

It would make more sense for him to wear something alien looking, rather than human "street style".
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Oldmanlogan79 » 13 Feb 2020, 13:20

Aeon wrote:
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Wow... Technotronic meets the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
ahahahah, great !
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Post by P-90 » 13 Feb 2020, 13:54

Prodigy look stupid to me but I suppose that's just be my personal taste and the whole shirtless look only works for characters like Conan or the Hulk.
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Aeon » 13 Feb 2020, 14:00

I wouldn’t mind

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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by _Rick_ » 14 Feb 2020, 04:36

I don't understand the current editorial mandate regarding the costumes. It seems like they were going with previous iterations for everyone. In fact, Chip Zdarsky flat out gives that indication to Terry Dodson in the script for X-men/FF #1 (we can see it in the director's cut). But then, some people do have new costumes and now this whole team does as well.

Truthfully, I don't mind. In fact, if they're going to go with the theme of a new Nation, together with it's own language, culture, etc, it seems appropriate to see some burgeoning fashion to go along with it. With the likes of Jumbo Carnation also being resurrected it would be interesting to have fashion trends going through the books even if just in the background. It would help tie everything up and make Krakoa seem more alive.

With that said... Prodigy looks ridiculous.

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Post by Magnus » 15 Feb 2020, 02:06

Northstar and Aurora look great. Polaris is pretty close, I could see her wearing something like that if she was younger, but I can't see her going for the zettai ryoiki look. Give her some pants and it'd be great.

Rachel's top half looks alright, but seeing the full-body design I can only think of Ben Stiller in The Royal Tenenbaums. Prodigy is... eh. Eye-Boy's is stupid and I hope it's not a real costume and just him being undercover or something (as much as a guy with eyes all over his face can go undercover...) And agree that Daken is too bulky and needs to just put on a shirt.
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I don't understand the current editorial mandate regarding the costumes. It seems like they were going with previous iterations for everyone. In fact, Chip Zdarsky flat out gives that indication to Terry Dodson in the script for X-men/FF #1 (we can see it in the director's cut). But then, some people do have new costumes and now this whole team does as well.

Truthfully, I don't mind. In fact, if they're going to go with the theme of a new Nation, together with it's own language, culture, etc, it seems appropriate to see some burgeoning fashion to go along with it. With the likes of Jumbo Carnation also being resurrected it would be interesting to have fashion trends going through the books even if just in the background. It would help tie everything up and make Krakoa seem more alive.
I agree, I think they've had a huge miss by seeming to have no real unifying plan on the costumes. So far it's been a combination of slight tweaks, retro togs or just wearing the same thing they were wearing a few months ago.

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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Blackcyclops » 15 Feb 2020, 07:24

Daken’s never really worn a shirt, except as bad Wolverine...whenever he’s just been Daken he’s just worn street clothes and usually loses his top cause be has a tattoo lol...
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Post by Blackcyclops » 15 Feb 2020, 07:28

Lavettye wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 13:19
Blackcyclops wrote:
13 Feb 2020, 09:40
“Ghetto flair”?
It wasn't meant offensive in any way. I was thinking about (my limited understanding of) stereotypical street wear items one might rather asscoiate with hip hoppers, gang members or "people from the 'hood". It seems weird as Eye-Boy never has been portrayed in such clothing before, and such categories or labels should no longer exist on Krakoa.

It would make more sense for him to wear something alien looking, rather than human "street style".
We’ve rarely seen him outside of his school uniform so I honestly couldn’t tell you what his specific style is but given Jumbo Carnation is the island designer now, I can see him giving looks that are on the cutting edges of menswear.

Eye-Boy and Prodigy both have looks that seem to be inspired by the latest menswear fashion week. I don’t know how into looks like that the artist is though to say if they’re really that inspired.

I’m split on the idea of a unifying look for all of Krakoa. Like Rick I think it would be cool to see in the background developing (obviously things are still new so it shouldnt just be overnight). But also I think everyone shouldn’t wear it because everyone still has different views of things.

Here it makes the most sense since this team is actually a designated unit...I could see something similar with X-Force’s field team. But Excalibur? Or X-Men? Definitely should be more like mish-mash of looks.
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Post by Spectral Knight » 17 Feb 2020, 13:46

Northstar's outfit looks awesome. Probably one of the best looks for him. Don't know much about Eye-Boy, but his costume to me is very Gen X, around the Revolutions / Counter X period, I kinda like, it even if it is probably a little dated, it feels like it could be worn in cities across the world.

Everything else looks pretty ridiculous to me. Rachel's could have looked good, if they'd kept a slim-line bottom half, but those baggy pants are stupid. Prodigy's just takes the biscuit and goes completely into sheer "what the hell are you wearing dude?" territory. For a guy with heaps of knowledge, you'd expect he'd know he looks utterly ridiculous.

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Post by Jesse James II » 18 Feb 2020, 19:44

Daken looks like the love-child of that Wolverine and Hercules from Dazzler's Exiles... in a good way. Maybe a bit buff, but I think he was due foe a makeover! Rachel could indeed have used more shades of red and I think indeed Aurora and Northstar would go for something more aerodynmic, but I still think it's ok. I absolutely love Lorna so Yay! The other two I could do without. They were never any favorite of mine,but we will see what they bring to the table before I pass any judgement on them 🙄

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Post by EphemeristX » 18 Feb 2020, 22:03

I could see Northstar and Aurora just tossing off the capes should they need to fight. Aurora's bucket boots seem like a big problem, though. Major drag.
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Post by Aeon » 18 Feb 2020, 22:07

Are they the pop-culture interpretations of the Extremists uniforms?

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Post by Blackcyclops » 18 Feb 2020, 22:12

I’m trying to see the big issue with David’s costume...it’s white pants and a high-collar yellow coat...
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Post by Aeon » 18 Feb 2020, 22:28

Didn’t MC Hammer wear such clothes in the late 80s? He always told me „Don’t touch this“ but I never knew what I wasn’t suppose to touch.

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Post by Jesse James II » 18 Feb 2020, 22:41

Now I can see David do that silly sidewalk move as a diversionary maneuver during battle 🤔

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Post by EphemeristX » 18 Feb 2020, 23:08

My biggest issue with David is his sleeves. They're kinda awkward, but I feel like it's less awkward than Eye-Boy's puffy coat and ugg boots nonsense. Yellow and white are kinda his colors, though.
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Lavettye » 19 Feb 2020, 01:13

EphemeristX wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 22:03
I could see Northstar and Aurora just tossing off the capes should they need to fight. Aurora's bucket boots seem like a big problem, though. Major drag.
Actually, I think Aurora and Polaris should switch costume designs. Lorna would look elegant in a green version of Aurora's look, with the boots being no issue. And the star outline from Aurora's belt could be turned into an outline for the skirt of Lorna's suit.
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Post by Magnus » 19 Feb 2020, 02:20

I don't think it's the sleeves in and of themselves - they'd look good as part of a robe if he wanted to go for the wizard look, for example. But I think they look silly with his those pants. Those oh so high waisted pants. Also, the big floppy sleeves and relatively close-fitting pants give him the silhouette of an ice cream cone (with ice cream on it).

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Post by Blackcyclops » 19 Feb 2020, 02:31

EphemeristX wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 23:08
My biggest issue with David is his sleeves. They're kinda awkward, but I feel like it's less awkward than Eye-Boy's puffy coat and ugg boots nonsense. Yellow and white are kinda his colors, though.
The sleeves are my big issue as well...
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Re: X-FACTOR by Leah Williams and David Baldéon

Post by Spectral Knight » 19 Feb 2020, 14:48

Blackcyclops wrote:
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I’m trying to see the big issue with David’s costume...it’s white pants and a high-collar yellow coat...
Whilst I would never profess to being a sartorial intellectual, in fact far from it as a jeans and comics/band tee kinda guy, but for me it's the cut of both that's an issue for me. With the Simon Cowell high waist of the trousers, and the sleeves, it just looks really, really daft. Especially in the colour combination. I know that's partly 'his' colours, but it looks really silly to me. To me, it's very Shoreditch A+D.

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Post by Blackcyclops » 19 Feb 2020, 15:30

Spectral Knight wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 14:48
Blackcyclops wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 22:12
I’m trying to see the big issue with David’s costume...it’s white pants and a high-collar yellow coat...
Whilst I would never profess to being a sartorial intellectual, in fact far from it as a jeans and comics/band tee kinda guy, but for me it's the cut of both that's an issue for me. With the Simon Cowell high waist of the trousers, and the sleeves, it just looks really, really daft. Especially in the colour combination. I know that's partly 'his' colours, but it looks really silly to me. To me, it's very Shoreditch A+D.
That’s fair...
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Post by medium13 » 19 Feb 2020, 15:56

This series of articles and tidbits has me pretty interested in this book despite the fact that I'm really into three of the case and luke-warm to cold on the rest. I love Northstar's design. It's basically what I attempt to look like every day of winter. I'm not really a fan of the costuming for Polaris, but her uniforms have been all over the place historically. I might be ok with this look if those are "boy shorts" and not a mini. The odd part of the contrast between the looks of Polaris and Aurora is that next to Polaris, Aurora's cape and relatively boring costume look shabby.

I'm giving up on Rachel. Her codenames, her costuming, her lack of skill and autonomy. I hope this book will change my mind. I don't hate her pants (better than a mini certainly) but I don't like them either. I oddly like Prodigy's costuming, it's a little nerdy and he's a nerd.

The explanation behind the team logo is brilliant. So fun.

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