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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by Peacock1976 » 04 Sep 2018, 12:56

Does Nightcrawler have new limits/range on his teleportation ability's? If so, what is he capable of now?
I'm asking because there is a bitchfight on Fb about who is the better teleporter; him or Blink.

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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by EphemeristX » 04 Sep 2018, 15:53

Nightcrawler's a faster teleporter, but he has a mass and a distance limit. Carrying more than, say, one or two people really exhausts him. His old range was a few miles, but I think it's longer now. Either way, that time he travelled across the US with Hope, he was nearly dead from exhaustion by the end. And it took him a lot of bamfs to make it.

Blink is a gate-based teleporter. Not technically as fast, but she doesn't have the limits Kurt does. She's teleported to the moon. That alone is a feat that Nightcrawler would never be able to do. And she's been shown using her powers like a doorway, quite often taking entire groups of people on jaunts with her.

Kurt is probably better used in combat situations, but Clarice is more versatile. Plus, she doesn't leave behind a rotten egg smell every time.
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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by Anna Raven » 04 Sep 2018, 19:26

EphemeristX wrote:
04 Sep 2018, 15:53
Kurt is probably better used in combat situations, but Clarice is more versatile.
You know what a huge Nightcrawler fan I am, but I would say even that statement is doubtful, because Blink can do things like the Portal video game, where she can open a portal, throw one of her daggers, and have it pop out of a portal behind the enemy where he is totally not expecting it.

Now I would say Kurt is a better hand to hand fighter, and he's a trained swordsman. So if say his teleporting powers were somehow nullified he'd be just fine, whereas Clarice would be hampered quite a bit. Plus Kurt has a whole host of other powers people tend to forget about: his prehensile tail, he can stick to walls much like Spider-man, his skin is so dark he blends into shadows naturally, night-vision, etc.
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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by Monolith » 05 Sep 2018, 21:11

In most measurements, Blink does exceed Nightcrawler.

In terms of distance, Blink is absolutely the better teleporter. She can jump from Earth to the moon in a single portal since her teens. Nightcrawler's upper most measured limit is 3 miles. He has occasionally demonstrated the ability to travel further, but this has never been fully measured and certainly doesn't reach Clarice's range.

In terms of mass or passengers, Blink also exceeds Nightcrawler. She can maintain stable portals to allow people or objects to continually pass through so long as the portal remains open. Nightcrawler has improved from his early days to be able to teleport at least a half-dozen people at once, but he still falls behind Blink.

As she demonstrated against Holocaust in Astonishing X-Men #4, Blink is also a combat-grade teleporter, like Nightcrawler. She can rapidly displace herself or others, literally in the blink of an eye, and can perform multiple jumps in rapid succession. Her ability to teleport people at range without touching them is also an advantage.

I wouldn't say all this means "Blink can beat Nightcrawler", of course. I'd compare Nightcrawler to Spider-Man -- Spidey isn't always the strongest or the most agile, but he has a experienced and improvisational fighting style that takes full advantage of the powers he does possess. Nightcrawler, too, is very experienced in his own way of fighting, and is quite capable of using teleportation to his benefit in a wide variety of ways.
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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by Dr House » 07 Sep 2018, 12:34

I know the Shadow King's method of telepathic mind control is to unleash is victims darker sides and condition them so that they willingly serve him and when his link to the nexus was severed in UXM #280, his victims were cut loose, weren't they?

I'm asking because I don't see how Lian Shen (in X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001) was still a servant after all that.
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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by das_boot » 10 Sep 2018, 10:20

Dr House wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 12:34
I know the Shadow King's method of telepathic mind control is to unleash is victims darker sides and condition them so that they willingly serve him and when his link to the nexus was severed in UXM #280, his victims were cut loose, weren't they?

I'm asking because I don't see how Lian Shen (in X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001) was still a servant after all that.

I thought Lian was a host, rather than a servant? The others (with the exception of Legion who was fried by Psylocke’s psychic knife), were under his thrall, but weren’t actual hosts of his?
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Re: Monolith's Power Descriptions

Post by Monolith » 10 Sep 2018, 12:45

No, Jacob Reisz was Shadow King's host from the time Lian was corrupted through the midpoint of the Muir Island Saga.

But Dr. House, I don't believe XXM Annual 2001 indicated Lian had remained loyal to Shadow King throughout that entire time. She may have been freed from his control, and then he just sought her out and corrupted her again after Psylocke was no longer caging him.
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