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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Blackcyclops » 02 Dec 2020, 21:36

Namora should’ve been named at least by last issue if not further back in Atlantis Attacks
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Dartalon » 02 Dec 2020, 22:42

Blackcyclops wrote:
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Namora should’ve been named at least by last issue if not further back in Atlantis Attacks
Yes she appeared at the end of issue #1.

Champions #3 Though non mutants
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Ironheart, Nova, Spider-Man and Ms. Marvel are granted asylum on Krakoa by Cyclops.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Aeon » 02 Dec 2020, 22:58

Dartalon wrote:
02 Dec 2020, 22:42
Blackcyclops wrote:
02 Dec 2020, 21:36
Namora should’ve been named at least by last issue if not further back in Atlantis Attacks
Yes she appeared at the end of issue #1.

Champions #3 Though non mutants
Spoiler: show
Ironheart, Nova, Spider-Man and Ms. Marvel are granted asylum on Krakoa by Cyclops.
Spoiler: show
And Xavier said Franky Richards isn’t welcome on Krakoa anymore because he isn’t a mutant this season.
Somehow the writers make their own Krakoa rules.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by EphemeristX » 02 Dec 2020, 23:58

It's possible they're not going to Krakoa but to a Krakoan embassy. They have spaces for humans.

Anyway! This week we have some good updates. In X-Factor #5, we have the active appearances of Adam X, Hellion, Mercury, Wallflower, and DJ along with cameos from Indra and Onyxx. In Atlantis Attacks #1 (which was a few months ago), Namora appears. And in Champions #3, Silhouette makes an appearance as well.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Dartalon » 03 Dec 2020, 00:54

Aeon wrote:
02 Dec 2020, 20:59
Onyxx looked like the former Rockslide from the slide, uhm side.
Definitely Onyxx with the yellow costume. But he did look a lot like Rockslide.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Dartalon » 04 Dec 2020, 13:31

Here is an interesting tweet from the X-Factor writer. https://twitter.com/mymonsterischic/sta ... 97572?s=20

I thought i saw Rubbermaid in the issue but the tweet confirms it. So all this generation of children are back were we have seen them are not.

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Post by EphemeristX » 04 Dec 2020, 20:01

I'll put Rubbermaid and Quill in there because she specifically named them being there, and I'll make a note of the rest of the AX class being around, but I'm not going to officially add every AX student to the list in a Dumbledore situation.

Thanks for the info, Dartalon!
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Post by Dartalon » 04 Dec 2020, 20:04

Thats wise since it's not totally clear just which characters she was talking about.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by SMidnite » 05 Dec 2020, 09:16

Wildside was part of the team that followed Jean and Scott.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Monolith » 05 Dec 2020, 12:40

Speaking of that, slight deviation from topic: Can anyone think of a reason why I shouldn't be listing Wildside, Forearm, Skin, Mondo, Callisto, Pyro I, Unus, and Gwenpool as X-Men members now in the Glossary? I feel like we go through this every few years with Utopia, the student body, etc., over "who is an X-Man?" these days. But Scott and Jean said "I'm going to go reform the X-Men", so...
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Aeon » 05 Dec 2020, 12:50

A new category maybe „X-Men Associates“ or „Krakoans“

Wildside was dragged into the New Mutants story, Gwenpool is the writer‘s pet, Skin technically is an X-Man through his Gen-X years I think.

But I think the rest can be categorized as Krakoans or Associates.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Blackcyclops » 05 Dec 2020, 15:56

Writer’s pet?

Anyway, yeah Krakoans is the most accurate descriptor for them Monolith. Cyclops and Jean haven’t officially launched the X-Men and so it might be best to err on the side of caution for now.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Monolith » 05 Dec 2020, 16:14

Didn't they? They went before the Quiet Council and said, basically, we're going to reform the X-Men to save our friends in Otherworld. And then they appear in a big group in Otherworld, where Jean says "To me, my X-Men!" How is that group and everyone in it NOT the group of X-Men they just said they were forming?
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Aeon » 05 Dec 2020, 16:28

Minus every X-Man who appeared in the last few months but wasn’t part of this group.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Dartalon » 05 Dec 2020, 16:53

Monolith wrote:
05 Dec 2020, 16:14
Didn't they? They went before the Quiet Council and said, basically, we're going to reform the X-Men to save our friends in Otherworld. And then they appear in a big group in Otherworld, where Jean says "To me, my X-Men!" How is that group and everyone in it NOT the group of X-Men they just said they were forming?
If anyone has the authority to make someone an X-Men it's Jean and Cyclops so until otherwise confirmed there not they are X-Men in my opinion.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by EphemeristX » 05 Dec 2020, 17:40

I didn't really think about it, but I say if Omerta and Wraith can be counted, so can these guys. They gathered when Scott and Jean asked and responded to the battle cry.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Aeon » 05 Dec 2020, 18:21

„X-Men for a Day“

It worked for the Defenders.

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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Blackcyclops » 05 Dec 2020, 18:44

EphemeristX wrote:
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I didn't really think about it, but I say if Omerta and Wraith can be counted, so can these guys. They gathered when Scott and Jean asked and responded to the battle cry.

Good point...
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by sambadaemon » 08 Dec 2020, 14:15

RE: Pyro's membership in the X-Men. Are the Marauders not considered "X-Men"? He's been active there for months. And I'm glad to see Wolf Cub/Wallflower back. It kinda always bothered me that the ones who died in the line of duty didn't get preferential treatment. Seems like they've earned it.

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Post by EphemeristX » 08 Dec 2020, 14:58

According to Hickman, there hasn't been an X-Men for over a year. So nope.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by Monolith » 09 Dec 2020, 01:25

Right, the X of Swords handbook specifically called out Krakoan sub-teams as not being X-Men members. Then the crossover just now retroactively stated that the "X-Men" have been disbanded since the founding of Krakoa.

(It's kind of tonally off to me that we didn't know the X-Men weren't active anymore until we learned they were reforming, but okay.)
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Post by EphemeristX » 09 Dec 2020, 02:15

I think it matches the in-universe rebranding efforts of the Krakoan government. They had heroes, and they were on Krakoa, and they let people call them the X-Men even if they technically weren't because it was just easier that way. And now, we have a clear distinction.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by EphemeristX » 09 Dec 2020, 19:11

New week, new mutants. This week, an entire new team debuts in the pages of S.W.O.R.D #1. Specifically, Amelia Voght, Blink, Fabian Cortez, Frenzy, Lila Cheney, Random, Risque, Vanisher and Wiz Kid. Skids was also mentioned as part of the back-up team.

D-Cel was given enough confirmation for me to include her as a mutant. Her first appearance was in Juggernaut #1.

In Marauders #16, Cordelia Frost was mentioned by Emma as waiting in the resurrection queue. For awhile.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by sambadaemon » 10 Dec 2020, 14:02

EphemeristX wrote:
09 Dec 2020, 19:11
New week, new mutants. This week, an entire new team debuts in the pages of S.W.O.R.D #1. Specifically, Amelia Voght, Blink, Fabian Cortez, Frenzy, Lila Cheney, Random, Risque, Vanisher and Wiz Kid. Skids was also mentioned as part of the back-up team.

D-Cel was given enough confirmation for me to include her as a mutant. Her first appearance was in Juggernaut #1.

In Marauders #16, Cordelia Frost was mentioned by Emma as waiting in the resurrection queue. For awhile.
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Re: Post HoX Mutant Appearances

Post by WorldWideWade » 10 Dec 2020, 14:52

Well I guess the Krakoan gates makes them a bit redundant.

Can anyone tell me about Cordelia Frost. I didn't read any of her appearances and use to think her and Adrienne were the same character. Has the death of Cordelia been mentioned at some point? Was she a villain as well?
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