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Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Red Strings » 22 Oct 2019, 22:24

Has Selene had any kind of contact with Apocalypse ever and, if so, around which titles/issues? For some reason in my head I feel like they might have but I'm also not sure if I'm getting mixed up with something else.

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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Nu-D » 22 Oct 2019, 23:54

Red Strings wrote:
22 Oct 2019, 22:24
Has Selene had any kind of contact with Apocalypse ever and, if so, around which titles/issues? For some reason in my head I feel like they might have but I'm also not sure if I'm getting mixed up with something else.
BITD there was some effort to shoehorn them both into the Externals with Gideon, et al. Not sure how much of that was canon, and how much was on the backs of trading cards and data pages.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by tokenBG1009 » 23 Oct 2019, 12:09

Think Apocalypse was definitely mentioned to be one. That was why Cable wanted Cannonball beneath his wing. I'm not 100% sure on Selene, but I believe she was debunked as one because her immortality came from draining the life of others.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Monolith » 23 Oct 2019, 12:53

Selene was definitively an External in the last Cable arc that dealt with them. Apocalypse and Cannonball were not. (For Selene, I'd theorize her YOUTH is because of her power, while her immortality still comes from being an External.)

But, to the question at hand: No, I can't recall Selene and Apocalypse even being in the same room until House of X #5.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by tokenBG1009 » 23 Oct 2019, 14:41

I may be mixing up Selene and Apocalypse then. I remember one of them being disregarded because their extended life span was due to outside factors and not just mutant immortality.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Red Strings » 23 Oct 2019, 15:57

Thanks guys, I was just trying to rack my brain because, in theory, I don't understand why they haven't met. In my mind they would be a dream power duo.

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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by InsipidLust » 28 Oct 2019, 17:47

Just adding that Selene's status as an External has never been questioned in-universe.

I don't think it's been discussed at length for Apocalypse but I can't recall.

Sam's status as an external has been questioned (and derided) by Selene.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Dr House » 10 Nov 2019, 15:56

Sam's Status has been questioned only by Selene.

The other Externals have said that Apocalypse is one of them (in X-Force #37 and issues of Gambit's 3rd volume). He's been referred to as an "External High Lord" at several points.
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Re: Selene and Apocalypse

Post by Lavettye » 10 Nov 2019, 17:10

Cable also said that Cannonball being an External was just a rumor in Cable #151.
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