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Re: Legion TV series

Post by EphemeristX » 02 Jun 2018, 18:43

Yessss. So many of my favorite shows are ending. I'm glad for this bit of happy news.
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Re: Legion TV series

Post by Anna Raven » 04 Jun 2018, 02:59

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I'm a little behind, so I just watched this episode and swear to God as i was watching my leg jerked on it's own. One of the creepiest experiences I've ever had watching a TV show.
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Post by EphemeristX » 14 Jun 2018, 16:37

Wow. What a dark episode. I'm actually kinda floored that they went there with David.
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Post by Anna Raven » 01 Jul 2018, 03:11

I just finally finished this. I'm not a huge fan of where they went at the end. Is anyone else as dissatisfied as I am? I don't mind them turning David into a bad guy but the way they went about it felt cheap.
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Re: Legion TV series

Post by P-90 » 01 Jul 2018, 13:58

Anna Raven wrote:
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I just finally finished this. I'm not a huge fan of where they went at the end. Is anyone else as dissatisfied as I am? I don't mind them turning David into a bad guy but the way they went about it felt cheap.
I agree, sadly what he did with Syd will now define him and the entire series, people will ignore his lifetime of mental illness, the fact that he had a powerful genuinely evil mutant his mind manipulating him for most of his life or that the one person on the planet that he loves and trusts tried to kill him. None of that will matter now because there was a sexual element to his actions.
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Post by EphemeristX » 01 Jul 2018, 17:52

The Shadow King did lie, though. He didn't drug Syd. He undid Shadow King's influence. Yeah, he made her forget shooting him, but it was the only way he could quickly fix what Farouk had done to her. One can argue the wrongness of his altering her mind without her consent, but what Syd thinks happened isn't what happened.
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 01 Jul 2018, 23:58

My sister thinks it was one of David's alt-personalities that created the delusion chicks & put them into everyone's heads. Do you think this is true?

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Post by Anna Raven » 02 Jul 2018, 02:21

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The Shadow King did lie, though. He didn't drug Syd. He undid Shadow King's influence. Yeah, he made her forget shooting him, but it was the only way he could quickly fix what Farouk had done to her. One can argue the wrongness of his altering her mind without her consent, but what Syd thinks happened isn't what happened.
Exactly, which makes his crime quite a bit less, he basically was just undoing the mind-eff that Shadowking did on Syd (using Melanie) and then their encounter was more or less consentual. It's still a violation to alter ones mind without permission, but that's a lot less of a crime than rape.

But the way they are positioning it is that David did rape her, and because he's got the personalities popping up at the worst possible time, he can't seem to explain or justify what actually happened. That's why it feels cheap, and like P90 said, now he has the stain of rape on him which can't really be put back in the bottle.

In the post #metoo world, there's not a lot of sympathy for anyone who would take advantage of a woman in an altered state of mind, regardless of the circumstances, and if they plan on doing a redemption story, they'd have an uphill battle to get there.

As to @EMP's sister's theory, I've been waiting for a long time for Legion to exhibit multiple personalities. It wouldn't be a big stretch to see one of them be evil or manipulitive.
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Post by Cable » 04 Feb 2019, 19:39

It is confirmed that the third season will be the conclusion of the show
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Post by EphemeristX » 04 Feb 2019, 20:18

Three seasons is two seasons more than I expected, so I'm happy. And, honestly, much more than that and I feel like the show would wear out its welcome.

Plus, with the Disney merger on the horizon, I bet the same fate will soon befall The Gifted.
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Re: Legion TV series

Post by medium13 » 05 Feb 2019, 16:52

Is Season 2 available to watch somewhere? I didn't even realize it had aired. I'd give this a watch as I enjoyed Season 1 but I didn't LOVE season 1.

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Post by Cable » 05 Feb 2019, 16:54

Both seasons are on Hulu
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Post by Cable » 06 Feb 2019, 17:28

Here is some info on the upcoming season, including two characters who will be appearing
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Professor X and Gabrielle Haller
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Re: Legion TV series

Post by Cable » 14 Jul 2019, 23:29

Anyone still watching this mindf#$* of a show? We are actually getting to see a young Professor X tinkering away at Cerebro and discovering Amahl Farouk!

I don't understand why they seemed to have him as a soldier in WWII rather than the Korean War though. Dates him too much imo.
Best Comics of Week 28

X-titles: Excalibur #22 by Tini Howard (3) and Marcus To (3)
Non-X titles: Extreme Carnage--Scream by Clay Chapman (1) and Chris Mooneyham (1)

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Re: Legion TV series

Post by P-90 » 14 Jul 2019, 23:50

Cable wrote:
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Anyone still watching this mindf#$* of a show? We are actually getting to see a young Professor X tinkering away at Cerebro and discovering Amahl Farouk!

I don't understand why they seemed to have him as a soldier in WWII rather than the Korean War though. Dates him too much imo.
I could never pin down when this show is supposed to be set, it seems like the 60's/70's (which would make Xavier's appearance during WW2 understandable) but sometime it's feels like it's set much later.

I liked the first two episodes, while there was still some weird aspects, so far there's been less of the 'weird for the sake of weird' that I felt permeated season 2.
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 15 Jul 2019, 00:03

I didn't expect Gabrielle Haller's WWII backstory to be maintained! Hawley says the series is set in "our own alternate reality ... where it’s both 1964 and the future." https://www.thewrap.com/legion-harry-ll ... vier-xmen/

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 13 Aug 2019, 21:47

The series finale was anticlimactic. For such a short-lived character study, I expected it to be more cohesive. Even in its failings, however, it was still more gripping than the bulk of Fox’s other mutant media.
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Re: Legion TV series

Post by ultimatekey » 05 May 2021, 14:35

What do you all have to say on how the character is portrayed in the TV Show, in comparison to his portrayal in the comic books?

Also, what do you all have to say on how mental illness is portrayed in the TV Show?

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Post by Cable » 06 May 2021, 16:46

ultimatekey wrote:
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Also, what do you all have to say on how mental illness is portrayed in the TV Show?
In regards to Legion himself the show isn't really portraying mental illness so much as making a commentary on it. Because David doesn't have a disease but rather is suffering from a malevolent psychic parasite and also has powers that alter reality (and therefore his perception of reality).

The first season is essentially using stigma over mutants as an allegory for stigma over mental illness. Because David is acting unusual he must be labeled crazy. He also must be considered dangerous. But they don't actually have any understanding of what is really going on with him.

The second season goes even further with the theme that "mental illness" is difficult to define when literally everyone's brain has serious areas of fallibility. Anyone can be fairly easily deceived by physical or mental phenomenon, so where exactly is the line between rational and irrational?

Season three...well season three is just a mess lol
Best Comics of Week 28

X-titles: Excalibur #22 by Tini Howard (3) and Marcus To (3)
Non-X titles: Extreme Carnage--Scream by Clay Chapman (1) and Chris Mooneyham (1)

In parentheses number of times creator has had best comic this year

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