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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by _Rick_ » 13 Mar 2019, 18:21

manuel_mc89 wrote:
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I don't think she ver called herself, or was called by others, Captain Marvel. We also never saw what was her rank in the military, I was hoping we would find out she was a colonel
Her rank wasn't spoken out loud but the corresponding insignia would be on her clothes in the flashbacks. I actually didn't pay that much attention to it during the movie but looking at the promo pictures she clearly has the captain insignia.
Honestly I prefer it that way. It never sat well with me that Carol was using a lower rank as her superhero identity. Plus, it wouldn't make sense for her to be of a higher rank than that in the MCU. There are minimum requirements for service time and education before you can be considered for certain promotions. In fact, assuming that Carol was in her late 20s (like Brie) back in 1989, that would mean that being a woman didn't stop her getting promotions as soon as she was eligible. There's no way she'd be a Colonel in her 20s.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Blackcyclops » 13 Mar 2019, 18:30

I was lowkey alil annoyed that they went with movies-90s not “authentic 90s” with the style and makeup. Alot of big budget movies do that when they do stuff set in the 90s or 80s. Thry either go for caricature or idealized version.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Magnus » 14 Mar 2019, 00:10

Finally saw it. I thought it was decent-to-good, maybe in the B-/C+ range. Most of my issues stem from what I felt was a weak script. The way it's set up in non-linear fashion does make for an interesting mystery as to her past, but once its put together things become pretty formulaic (and the end fight scenes are pretty weak). Larson was fine, and she does a good job of the 'confident/cocky flygirl' personality, but I don't think the script gave her more than that to work with - stuff that could've been emotional moments were tamped down and she doesn't really struggle at any point. I could've done with a lot more Kree/Skrull background, or more of the Danvers/Fury buddy-cop interactions, which were the highlight for me. I also would've liked more explanation/exposition her powers because right now it just feels like generic energy blasts and such.

It'll definitely be interesting see how she's handled in Endgame and beyond... I worry that powers-wise she'll be too OP. It was fine for most of the movie, until she flew through the Kree ship without any problem. That's the sort of stuff that forced them to spin Thor and Hulk off on their own adventures.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Mar 2019, 00:26

I always thought Hulk and Thor were underpowered.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by EphemeristX » 14 Mar 2019, 15:21

Finally saw it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. I'd put it right about at the level of the first Captain America. Better than the first two Thors and the second two Iron Men. And the only Hulk. It had way more humor than I was anticipating, given the straightforward nature of her line delivery in the trailer. Also, did anyone see the "Carol getting an award in dress blues" scene in the actual movie? Did I miss it?

And yeah, the Hulk and Thor are unpowered, but they are in the comics too. There's no way a person who can lift a hundred tons can backhand a squishy human without turning them into liquid.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Mar 2019, 16:35

That’s suspension of disbelief control of strength...Which comes from a real place. I don’t punch my 25 yr old lil brother in the arm when he gets annoying, the same way I’d punch a Nazi.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Nu-D » 14 Mar 2019, 16:46

Blackcyclops wrote:
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That’s suspension of disbelief control of strength...Which comes from a real place. I don’t punch my 25 yr old lil brother in the arm when he gets annoying, the same way I’d punch a Nazi.
Just this morning I was reading the trial transcript of a vehicular homicide case, including the coroner’s testimony and the photographs of the injuries.

In the first Avengers movie, when Banner first turns to Hulk he’s enraged and smashed through the helicarrier chasing Natasha. He catches up to her and punches her. She flies 30, 40, 60 feet in the trajectory of a 95 mph fastball, and slams into a steel girder.

Maybe Hulk pulled his punch (though there’s zero evidence in the film that he did), but it doesn’t matter. She’d have been jelly after that impact.

So yes, superpowers require us to just ignore those parts that cannot be reconciled with reality. That’s suspension of disbelief.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Milkshake08 » 15 Mar 2019, 00:29

This will most likely mean nothing to non-US people, but I'm laughing so hard today because Jack Probiesac (a really dumb right wing pundit in the US) keeps tweeting that this movie is suffering from "empty theaters" because of the Comicsgate protest (#Alitachallenge) that he promoted. Like, what reality are you living in dude? This moving is the 6th highest weekend gross of all time.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Nu-D » 15 Mar 2019, 00:35

I’m gonna see it a second time in the theater just to give that guy the finger.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 17 Mar 2019, 20:47

This needed a reverse “man behind the curtain” scene to reveal the real Supreme Intelligence!

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Gremlin » 17 Mar 2019, 22:53

Yeah, I was a little disappointed we didn’t get a green-tentacle head moment but I’ll hold out for future films.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Blackcyclops » 17 Mar 2019, 22:58

We need a globby Supreme Intelligence, purple armored Galactus, and a 100% accurate Eternity.
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Nu-D » 18 Mar 2019, 01:24

Gremlin wrote:
17 Mar 2019, 22:53
Yeah, I was a little disappointed we didn’t get a green-tentacle head moment but I’ll hold out for future films.
Basically, all they need to do is copy the Face of Boe, and put him in greenish liquid.

I bet it’ll happen.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by das_boot » 21 Mar 2019, 21:08

So, I enjoyed this, a lot. I didn’t feel like this was the Carol I was expecting to see, but Larson did just fine with the writing she was given. I really particularly enjoyed the buddy cop moments with Fury (“I cant eat toast that’s cut diagonally”— I feel you, Fury), and I love that she seemed far more mischievous than I would have expected from her.

I do, however, feel like they’ve telegraphed either the Kree Skrull war or Secret Invasion far too hard here; in trying to create sympathy for the Skrulls, this feels a lot like a double-bluff for Secret Invasion. I dunno. Maybe i’m Just being a bit cynical, but if, like it’s hypothesised, a major character dies in End Game for Carol to take their place, I was hoping for more high-science fiction space opera stuff for phase 4, than potentially another subterfuge and intrigue plot line, like Winter Soldier and Civil War
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Gibbering Fool » 23 Mar 2019, 08:27

I finally saw it. I quite enjoyed it but I didn't leave the cinema with a permanent smile like I did after Guardians, Ragnarok or Winter Soldier. I'd give it a solid B.

Did one of the Skrulls disappear? There were four originally. Talos, Science Guy and two buddies. One buddy power as Coulson and was killed. After that we only ever saw Talos and Science Guy. Im guessing the other Skrull was the one on the train. I thought he escaped but I might have misunderstood that scene.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Nu-D » 24 Mar 2019, 03:08

I just got back from seeing it a second time. I liked Larsen a lot more this time. Her acting is understated, and I think there was a concerted effort not to cater her to what guys want to see. A lot of the minor plot holes I thought were there were actually cleared up with minor dialogue I missed the first time.

But really, the fight scenes were really weak. The directing was lackluster. And the story overall just seemed a little dull.

My wife and her sister came with me (neither are fans of comics or comic moves, but both loved WW). They both liked it, but thought it was weaker than WW, and that Carol was way overpowered at the end.

Maybe this is really obvious, but since Carol’s power came from the tesseract, presumably she’ll be able to destroy one of the infinity stones. In Infinity War it was a major plot point that Wanda could destroy the mind stone because that was the source of her power. I expect Carol’s role in End Game will be to destroy (or defeat, or counteract) the stone that was in the tesseract.

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Northstar404 » 29 May 2019, 20:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia0puiEzqoA

A deleted scene from the movie: that Answers the question of Who Yon-Rogg see as the Supreme Intelligence

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