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Re: Arrow

Post by tokenBG1009 » 23 Mar 2017, 09:01

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I'd prefer they forget she exists. She was almost as terrible as Ragman was.
And another episode that makes me go "Eh, maybe I was hasty in my criticism..."

I kind of hope she gets more to do. I can see her being a decent character.
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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 24 Mar 2017, 20:55

Savitar may not be the most compelling of foes, but he’s still a believable season long threat for the Flash. Pometheus, on the other hand, doesn’t bring anything unique to the Big Bad table (psychological warfare is NOT a new trick!), so I don’t understand why he’s giving Green Arrow more trouble than the League of Assassins & HIVE. (If it turns out Savitar is really Prometheus, that could explain why he has time for everything & knew about Black Siren being held at STAR Labs.) His plan would’ve been foiled if Susan Willaims had just told the SCPD the DA kidnapped her, murdered his wife, & kidnapped the mayor. Prometheus is only winning because Team Arrow is incompetent. https://mattthecatania.wordpress.com/20 ... this-week/

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Re: Arrow

Post by Nu-D » 30 Mar 2017, 12:49

Oliver hits rock bottom and his magical negro sidekick talks him out of it.

*yawn*

Seems to me they've burned their bridges with Bratva. I mean, my memory for these stories is pretty bad--they all seem to blur together--but hasn't Ollie called on Bratva only to do an about face at least three times now? At this point, they can't use Bratva for anything other than armed thugs. It's a wasted opportunity, IMO. They should have played off the flashback story by having Ollie save Bratva by buying them off--selling them medicines instead of helping them steal narcotics. Next season could have had a subplot with Ollie sending Speedy to Russia to try to get Bratva set up as a semi-legit pharma importer, only to find himself as mayor outed with financial ties to Russian mobsters.

I predict the first half of next season will be a tale of Overwatch getting too wrapped up in her omniscient power, and a morality tale on that.

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Re: Arrow

Post by Nu-D » 27 Apr 2017, 12:55

The conflict between Felicity and Oliver in this episode is pretty contrived. Oliver's position supporting Argus makes zero sense. Why does Oliver oppose freeing the prisoner that is being illegally held in a shipping container, hooded and chained to a chair, in a black site? He disapproves of what Argus is doing, so why is he helping them against Felicity?

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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 27 Apr 2017, 19:40

Oliver's been working with Argus to illegally detain supervillains for years, which is why I don't understand Dig was so shocked about it.

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Re: Arrow

Post by Anna Raven » 28 Apr 2017, 00:02

I predicted that episode the moment they introduced Helix. I'm so sick of Felicity. I just want her to go away.

On the other hand the Renee/Quentin daughter stuff was great.
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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 28 Apr 2017, 23:27

IT HAD NO FLASHBACKS?! Even “Invasion!” had some flashback footage spliced into the simulation that substituted. Out of all the present day stories that could’ve benefited from not being truncated to make room for flashbacks, they picked this one? https://mattthecatania.wordpress.com/20 ... -run-week/

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Re: Arrow

Post by Nu-D » 04 May 2017, 18:22

A great big whopping retcon in the soap opera. All season Oliver and Felicity have been cold and the romance dead. Suddenly we find out they had a tryst mid-season and have been pining for each other all along.

Meanwhile, the tension from the ticking clock was artificial. There's enough air in that room to last weeks. And the action scenes were full of horseshit, leaping across chasms to one-armed catches.

And the interpersonal relationship angst was stupid too. Oliver ignoring Felicity to climb the elevator was predictable, the concessions trite, and her apology at the end made no sense. She was right and he was wrong.

3/10

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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 04 May 2017, 21:00

We were also cheated out of more Peter Stormare.


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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 18 May 2017, 08:08

Apparently a bunch of mute ninjas cost less than one Talia al Ghul.

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Re: Arrow

Post by tokenBG1009 » 18 May 2017, 09:50

That last scene was me this entire episode
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Re: Arrow

Post by Blackcyclops » 18 May 2017, 10:50

I thought this was a fantastic episode...yeah I don't get how anyone could hate on this season but love season 1 or 2, this is easily the best season since then and shows a much better range with all the actors (soooo many characters have come a long way). If this finale can pull it off, this could be Arrow's best season yet
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Re: Arrow

Post by Nu-D » 21 May 2017, 12:10

Nothing in this season has persuaded me That Chase is such a big threat that Oliver needs Slade's help. Slade is the bigger threat, IMO.

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Re: Arrow

Post by sambadaemon » 22 May 2017, 14:20

Is Rene dead? We never see him, either in this episode or the preview for next week.

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Re: Arrow

Post by Blackcyclops » 25 May 2017, 01:50

This finale really made the Flash arrow seem sooooooooooooo weak...

I give it credit, when Arrow embraces it's comic book and action-movie roots, it is such a fun show.
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Re: Arrow

Post by tokenBG1009 » 25 May 2017, 06:15

Adrian Chase is the first villain since Captain America that has ever made me legitimately respect and fear them. I'd watch Season 4 again to just feel like I was worthy of this episode.

Also, someone on reddit pointed out that Adrian's "See you on the boat" line from last episode ended up ringing true.
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Re: Arrow

Post by Blackcyclops » 25 May 2017, 10:02

I think these last two episodes redeemed him in my eyes as a badass villain...plus his connection to Ollie's past was a nice touch and the use of flashbacks were brilliant here.
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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 25 May 2017, 23:05

(Green) Arrow is my favorite TV show about an unqualified millionaire with undisclosed Russian ties who becomes a politician while gaslighting the media! Why must Green Arrow become inept whenever he gives up murder for Lent? This was only an excellent season if you wanted to watch the protagonist lose constantly to the same guy!
Instead of destroying Starling City again, all of Lian Yu goes boom along with the entire supporting cast! DON’T WASTE MY TIME WITH THIS CHEAP STUNT! It rings completely false as a cliffhanger since practically all of them will return next season with minimal injuries. Merlyn’s plan half-succeeding at the end of season one felt earned & tragic. This feels like a parody of edgy TV. YOU HAVE FAILED THIS SEASON FINALE!
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Re: Arrow

Post by Anna Raven » 29 May 2017, 19:42

I just got around to this and Chase is completely right about Oliver. He is a murderer, because he was completely fine with knocking an innocent ARGUS guard out and leaving him to die on the island when it blew up.
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Re: Arrow

Post by tokenBG1009 » 30 May 2017, 01:19

Anna Raven wrote:
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I just got around to this and Chase is completely right about Oliver. He is a murderer, because he was completely fine with knocking an innocent ARGUS guard out and leaving him to die on the island when it blew up.
I'm assuming next season we'll see that everyone survived by getting in the bunker. There's legitimately no other way anyone would survive.
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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 30 May 2017, 01:58

Oliver didn't intend for the Argus guard to explode since he didn't know about the bombs yet & was hoping to stop them, although the guard was probably in cahoots with Chase since he got to Captain Boomerang first.
Everybody could just jump in the sea & wait for Oliver to pick them up in the boat while Lian Yu burns.

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Re: Arrow

Post by Anna Raven » 30 May 2017, 03:55

EvilMonkeyPope wrote:
30 May 2017, 01:58
Oliver didn't intend for the Argus guard to explode since he didn't know about the bombs yet & was hoping to stop them, although the guard was probably in cahoots with Chase since he got to Captain Boomerang first.
Everybody could just jump in the sea & wait for Oliver to pick them up in the boat while Lian Yu burns.
But he made no effort to tell the team - oh by the way go pick this guy up too.
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Re: Arrow

Post by tokenBG1009 » 30 May 2017, 04:25

Anna Raven wrote:
30 May 2017, 03:55
EvilMonkeyPope wrote:
30 May 2017, 01:58
Oliver didn't intend for the Argus guard to explode since he didn't know about the bombs yet & was hoping to stop them, although the guard was probably in cahoots with Chase since he got to Captain Boomerang first.
Everybody could just jump in the sea & wait for Oliver to pick them up in the boat while Lian Yu burns.
But he made no effort to tell the team - oh by the way go pick this guy up too.
Theoretically, he would wake up and radio for help.
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Re: Arrow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 30 May 2017, 05:03

Maybe Deathstroke will remember the guard?
None of them seemed to care about saving Chase's cronies scattered around the island either.

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