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Post by MorriganFearn » 10 May 2010, 18:27

Indeed, some of the most epic RDJr staring at nothing and convincing you that he's having massive brain waves of awesome happened in this scene.BTW, above post now edited for clarity and making slightly more sense for those who haven't seen the movie but don't mind the spoilers.

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Post by Charles » 11 May 2010, 02:19

[QUOTE=EvilMonkeyPope]the new element for the arc reactor retcon was really far fetched. Why didn't his dad write it down?[/QUOTE] Maybe Howard Stark was egotistical enough to only want his son to figure it out.



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Post by hughissuper » 11 May 2010, 08:46

I liked it. Spoiler Alert!!!!When we saw on the previews that blood toxicity thing, we thought they were going to bring in Tony Stark's alcoholism. It would have put more of an edge on Iron Man. I understand that would have been probably too big of an issue to resolve in the space of one movie. The palladium thing was cool and of course, the new element discovery is a good intro for Captain America. Did anyone else notice that Tony used the Captain America shield to prop up his particle accelerator?While the movie did manage to capture a good deal of the push/pull between Rhodey and Tony, I think they could have done a better job. It comes off as a little too friendly. I think there would be more frustration, especially on Rhodes' part. From experience, watching someone with a lot of potential self-destruct and make otherwise poor decisions is nerve-wracking and can make you feel helpless.

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Post by MorriganFearn » 11 May 2010, 10:37

[QUOTE=MorriganFearn]I was allowed to be the knowledgeable person who was properly shocked that Tony utilized the remains of the Cap's shield as an oil line prop, had to explain at length why I thought it was awesome that Justin Hammer mentions swords and shields with a nasty sneer, and then sigh over the fact that there was a race in Monaco and there wasn't a single face in the crowd that I could pretend was M, Emplate, or the twins popping in as an Easter egg for the astute viewer.[/QUOTE]I only nearly had a conniption fit, and would have yelled out "That's the frame work for the shield, you blasphemer!" had I not also been trying to smother sacrilegious laughter.The Mexico trip of our favorite SHIELD lackey was nicely played. I was so excited that they actually showed why he had to run off in the middle of the movie, and well, the reason why he ran off in the middle of the movie. Post credit teasers are evil, but I liked that they didn't make it too dramatic and over blown.WARNING: The shine has now worn off since Saturday, and I'm about to post a characterization disillusionment. Please do not read if you do want to go into the movie pure of heart, and open of mind.........Personally, I wasn't enthused with the Rhodey-Tony relationship for the opposite reason. They didn't seem to have the friendship chemistry that you saw in the first movie, and War Machine spent most of IM2 wandering around like a man with a big ol' stick up his bum, rather than a man who was betraying a solid friendship on the orders of his superiors. Some angst or indecision or something behind the "well, this is awkward, but I have to do it" would have been nice. Also, why was he only allowed to knock Tony down to size? Is there some contract that says the sidekick (and as WM is a hero in his own right, the fact that he came off as the spunky sidekick character is mind blowingly irritating) can only be a force of (admittedly epic) hubris deflation?There was some talk on the forum (possibly started by Black Cyclops?) that Marvel only seems to have certain personality types for their black male leads. I was glad to see that Jackson broke that mold with Nick Fury, being a hard ass, but one with a sense of humor, who just knows more than you do, Tony, get over it. Unfortunately, I began comparing his more flexible character to War Machine. Rhodey seemed to slip into the flat personality box, though. Either he was the no-nonsense tough guy (up until the Stark Expo climax), or he was the silly side kick. His lines at the end were funny, but, really, was that the same character who stoically tried to stop Tony from making a fool of himself at his own birthday party? We didn't see any of that fun before, and admittedly everything has been pretty awkward for WM up until the end, but couldn't there have been more depth to the character? A bad joke or two? Something other than stick-Rhodes.Meh. Thoughts?

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Post by Shadow Bamf » 12 May 2010, 18:52

I saw it. It was awesome.

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Post by Archangel » 12 May 2010, 23:59

Pretty good.  Not great.   Sam Rockwell was awful.  

 
Actually, I wasn't all that happy with some of the directorial choices.   Tony's self-destruction was apparent, but not fully realized, and his redemption was rather shallow.
 
I actually thought Cheadle was a solid improvement over the first guy, you know, what's-his-name.   I could see a solid conflict of responsibilities in his character this time, and not just an enabler.Archangel2010-05-13 00:09:17

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Post by Gibbering Fool » 13 May 2010, 01:33

Terrance Howard had a womanly voice, I always pictured my War Machine talking more like Mr T

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 13 May 2010, 19:53

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Post by Phoenixx9 » 14 May 2010, 12:53

[QUOTE=Archangel]Sam Rockwell was awful.  

 
Actually, I wasn't all that happy with some of the directorial choices.   Tony's self-destruction was apparent, but not fully realized, and his redemption was rather shallow.
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I agree, Sam Rockwell was awlful, but not so much his acting as the character that the director wanted.  He came off like a big, rich baby who either gets his way, or blames someone else for his problems.  Very superficial feel and useless screaming.  Also, Sam likes to smoke on screen as if his smoking and (ahem) dancing is hot stuff (he did a dance similar to this in another movie).  Ugghh!

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 17 May 2010, 16:49

They cut a great line from the Senate hearing: "I don't know whether I'm a sword or a shield, but I know that Hammer is a tool."

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Post by Wolverinefan86 » 12 Jun 2010, 17:53

I liked it except for the fact that the fightscenes with Black Widow were in CGI.  It makes me think eventually everything from stunts to explosions will all be done in CGI so that they can save money. 

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Post by A Former UXN Forumite » 12 Jun 2010, 18:20

Black Widow in CGI?! That's a terrible thing to hear!
 
I hate CGI. It's ruining action movies, and it needs to die.

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Post by XtremeOne1 » 13 Jun 2010, 00:35

It didn't look like CGI to me at all. It liked like if anything maybe a few wires but it did not look a bit like CGI.


 
Here is an article which seems to support Scarlett Johansson doing her own stunts:
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1638291/20100503/story.jhtmlXtremeOne12010-06-13 00:37:06

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Post by Phoenixx9 » 13 Jun 2010, 11:06

[QUOTE=XtremeOne1] It didn't look like CGI to me at all. It liked like if anything maybe a few wires but it did not look a bit like CGI. [/QUOTE]
 
Yeah, I didn't think it was CGI.  Agreeing with XtremeOne1, maybe a few cables.  Maybe.  I just wished there was more 'Tasha and at least 1 darn Widow's bite Blast!

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Post by marhawkman » 13 Jun 2010, 14:51

So do you guys think they should have the Mandarin as the main villain in 3?

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Post by A Former UXN Forumite » 13 Jun 2010, 14:57

They should have Tony Stark as the villain in Iron Man 3. And Natasha as the hero. And call it Black Widow.

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Post by Phoenixx9 » 14 Jun 2010, 11:07

[QUOTE=ajandrew1212]They should have Tony Stark as the villain in Iron Man 3. And Natasha as the hero. And call it Black Widow.[/QUOTE]
 
LOL!!! 
 
Excellent!
 
This I would pay 10 rupels to see!

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Post by hughissuper » 14 Jun 2010, 13:33

I was disappointed that Black Widow didn't seem very well developed. It's almost like they just stuck her in for fan service, but maybe they are setting her character up for more development later on.I think having an actress like Scarlett Johnasson demands a little bit meatier role.

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Post by Pezz » 14 Jun 2010, 13:38

Oh she was hot, but she was pretty bitchy too...after her reveal I kept wondering; why hasn't Tony just freaking repulser blasted her into a wall? I knew I'd want to get my violent on if I found out someone was spying on me. 

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Post by Phoenixx9 » 14 Jun 2010, 14:34

[QUOTE=Pezz]Oh she was hot, but she was pretty bitchy too...after her reveal I kept wondering; why hasn't Tony just freaking repulser blasted her into a wall? I knew I'd want to get my violent on if I found out someone was spying on me.  [/QUOTE]
 
He probably will if she appears in IM3...or if he appears in Black Widow: the Movie!

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 15 Jun 2010, 04:04

Is it just me or does Sam Jackson not feel like Nick Fury untill he smokes cigars, macks on Contessa, wears a SIELD jumpsuit with jetpack, and shoots some HYDRA goons?

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Post by marhawkman » 15 Jun 2010, 12:18

No it's not just you.

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Post by Wolverinefan86 » 15 Jun 2010, 12:50

[QUOTE=XtremeOne1]It didn't look like CGI to me at all. It liked like if anything maybe a few wires but it did not look a bit like CGI.


 
Here is an article which seems to support Scarlett Johansson doing her own stunts:
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1638291/20100503/story.jhtml[/QUOTE]
It looked kind of animated to me.  It seemed too fast to be real. 

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 15 Jun 2010, 15:07

It's much easier and cheaper to speed up the footage and delete some wires than to make a CGI ScarJo.

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Post by Wolverinefan86 » 16 Jun 2010, 13:21

Oh.  Well I should see it again. 

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