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Willow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 11 Jan 2023, 21:33

Did anybody stream the Disney+ Willow series? I enjoyed it more than the movie that spawned it. They'd better renew it!
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Post by Milkshake08 » 11 Jan 2023, 23:15

I enjoyed it! Though the Prince really annoyed me - I just don't like that actor very much I think. To be fair, a lot of the characters annoyed me (Looking at you, Kit), but I thought it was a really fun show, and it's certainly better than the film.

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 25 Jan 2023, 19:46

Now there is a documentary special.

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 15 Mar 2023, 21:03

It's been axed by bean counters that didn’t give it a chance to grow its audience.

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Re: Willow

Post by Milkshake08 » 15 Mar 2023, 22:38

Damn. Come on Disney+! Don't be pulling Netflix/Amazon Prime moves on us already!

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 18 Mar 2023, 00:28

Showrunner Jon Kasdan says this isn't necessarily accurate. It's just not going into production in the near future. His three-part explanation is quite thorough & positive: https://twitter.com/JonKasdan/status/16 ... 1497146368

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 19 May 2023, 00:16

How dare Disney Plus copy the HBO Max model of stripping streaming content! Watch this before May 26!
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Post by Milkshake08 » 19 May 2023, 19:14

So confused why they're getting rid of content, especially original content, when they've lost subscribers. What is the point? Does this make sense in any way for the business? I mean, Willow was only ok to me, but very strange to remove it entirely.

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Post by WorldWideWade » 19 May 2023, 20:07

The idea is to license out the content to other streamers and ad based channels like Pluto. Basically a lot of the streamers spent a bunch of money on these projects that don't lead to a direct return on investment, so if their statistics show that they aren't keeping eyeballs on their platform they have spent the money for nothing. At least with farming out the content they can recoup some of the cost. This does make it annoying to a consumer that wants all of their content in one place. For example Justice League and Justice League Unlimited left HBOMax and are on Netflix right now. I can definitely see some of the Marvel Animated shows having a similar trajectory.
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 19 May 2023, 22:32

If they keep shows available past a certain point, streamers have to pay the creatives extra residuals on them. Streaming residuals are already structured worse than traditional. It's why HBO Max gutted its cartoon selection even though they'd only have to pay a few hundred bucks into the residuals fund. It's why writers are striking.

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Re: Willow

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 24 May 2023, 18:32

The Mysterious Benedict Society is also worthwhile while it's still available. I ruined my sleep schedule binging season two in one day. That means by the rule of irony that Disney+ will now keep the series available for everybody else, right?

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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 10 Jun 2023, 23:50

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-plus-sho ... ls-willow/
https://twitter.com/black_tym/status/16 ... 5635829783
https://twitter.com/reylochriso/status/ ... 8350927873
So it turns out Willow actually had surprisingly good ratings despite Disney+'s absurdly unattainable expectations.

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Post by Cable » 11 Jun 2023, 00:54

Disney+ is wrong to remove the show, but it is a stretch to portray Willow as a success. I can't read the whole article and I don't know exactly what this company is meaning when they measure demand using 'consumer research and social media', but between Willow never making the Nielsen rankings, meaning it had worse viewership than every single Marvel series, and it having a poor IMDb user rating of 5.7, you can see why Disney wasn't thrilled.

For another example I recall this article by Plum Research, another media analytics company:
2.1M Unique Viewers for the first two Willow episodes is a solid result. But let’s be honest — when Disney+ reboots a popular and highly-anticipated story from the 80’s, then 1.7 M UV for the week is not even close to success. Other Disney+ originals, She-Hulk: Attorney at Law and Star Wars: Andor, had 9.9M and 7.6M Unique Viewers, respectively, in the first week after their premieres.
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