Nu-D wrote: ↑
27 Feb 2021, 19:08
Man, you people must have shitty friends.
Bold of you to assume I even have friends, but okay.
I’m going to call out a very specific toxic behaviour here that we see all too often on social media nowadays, and it’s this absolute nonsense “OMG IF YOU EVER NEED ME I’M JUST A CALL AWAY I AM A TRUE FRIEND”.
Yeah no, life doesn’t work that way at all and I’m going to break down why this way of thinking is, I think, bogging you down at this point, Nu-D.
The Avengers as we saw by the finale of Endgame were not the Avengers we saw by the end of AoU
Between the newer members having been missing for 5 years (Wanda, Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Bucky, Falcon, War Machine, Black Panther), some of them not surviving (Iron Man, Black Widow, essentially Captain America), and some of them having family and loved ones to return to after five years away (BP, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange) or dealing with their own trauma (Pepper, Falcon, Bucky, War Machine, Hawkeye)... there’s no team. Not really. This isn’t like the FF or X-Men where there’s a genuine family feeling amongst everyone, this is a team forged out of necessity with very distinct cliques within that team. Hawkeye and Widow, Widow and Hulk, Falcon and Bucky and Cap, Iron Man and Pepper and Rhodey, The Wakandans, team Quantum Realm, the GoTG, the Asgardians... and Wanda fits in none of those cliques. Do these people care about her? For sure. Hawkeye is very protective of her, we’ve seen that. But he also has his own darkness to reconcile, the death of Natasha to deal with, AND his family returning. Show me someone who would prioritise the chick from work you know has had it rough over his family and losing his best friend. Show me that person. IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNREALISTIC TO BELIEVE THAT IN THE FACE OF TRAUMA THAT HAS IMPACTED EVERYONE IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS PROCESSING THEIR OWN TRAUMA AND LOSS WOULD PRIORITISE A WORK COLLEAGUE OVER THEIR OWN FAMILY
For any of this series to work, we need Wanda to have a real tangible sense of loneliness
— otherwise it doesn’t make sense. If she could have just brought Vision back to life, where’s the conflict? Where’s the story?
Who knew that Vision was dead and that Wanda had basically tried to kill him to protect him from Thanos?
I believe we had Cap, Thor, and Hulk there, with Bucky and Falcon being knocked out, and BP and Okoye turning up just after the fight ended. Out of those characters, Bucky and Falcon have to deal with them being left the legacy of Captain America. Thor left with the Guardians because they seemed more fun than the dour Avengers. Hulk was functionally side-lined due to his injuries. Again, while I suspect that the survivors would have been told that Vision had died, we’re STILL in the space where we need to consider which of them is free of any ties and responsibilities to be able to prioritise her over their own personal stuff, but for the most part it could really be as simple as a lot of the survivors not even considering the impact this would have on Wanda because they a) saw Vision as a machine or b) all just assumed someone else would provide her with the necessary support because everyone would know that they were busy...
Which of the Avengers are *ACTUALLY* Wanda’s friend?
Let’s leave that one hanging for a second because it’s a really sad question.
Wanda’s closest allies within the Avengers are dead or grieving their own losses and are in no space to help her out. Also, for all we know, subsequent films and tv series will explain exactly why they were unavailable. I’m really not trying to paint the Avengers as shitty people here, but I’m trying to make it abundantly clear that expecting a collective of people who are all mentally or physically damaged to somehow be able to see the woods for the trees, and that they’re somehow failing one of their own by not being able to be present is just an unfair and unrealistic assessment of these characters.
If you look at statistics for real life traumas— death of a child, Murder within the family, horrible accident that kills a close friend or family member but spares the rest— the relationships within those units deteriorates. There’s very high incidences of divorce in families where a child dies, and oftentimes friendships break down in the wake of a tragic accident. In that respect, this is a fairly true reflection of what would happen to a collective of people largely brought together by circumstance, after facing something that has absolutely devastated them all— they’ve gone their separate ways and have probably not even realised how isolated Wanda is.
Also, let’s get really really REALLY real here for a second—
Show me the Avenger that could stop her, at this point. Maybe Carol. MAYBE Doctor Strange, and as an outside bet, sure, what about maybe Mantis... but that’s assuming they wouldn’t be effected by the hex as much as everyone else who isn’t Agatha has been. Literally, what could we really expect from any of the Avengers? At this stage it really does seem like the best chance at this ending is for Wanda to reject her fake reality for actual reality, or Agatha somehow shutting her down, but I absolutely reject this notion that the Avengers should have reformed as soon as they caught wind of this... and hey, again, we’re assuming that there are channels open for that to happen in the first place... who’s to say SWORD would have shared intel?