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Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 09 Feb 2020, 23:16

I enjoyed this much more than I expected to. Unlike Dr. Harleen Quinzel’s prior cinematic outing, this one knows what it’s doing. BOP was fantabulous!
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Nu-D » 10 Feb 2020, 13:37

Reviews have been generally ok. Since I’m not particularly invested in DC movies or these characters, I’ll rent this sometime.
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 10 Feb 2020, 20:29

But it needs your money now!

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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 10 Feb 2020, 22:55

Yeah, it's doing pretty badly at the box office.

Thought it was totally worth seeing in theaters though. Lots of good in this movie. I hope it can recover a poor opening weekend so we get more movies like it. It sits somewhere above the two Deadpool movies in the area of "comedic/violent anti-villain comic book movies."

Music was far superior and Black Mask blows Ajax and...whoever the bad guy was in DP2 out of the water. With a far better supporting cast to go around Harley.

It's not perfect by any measure, but it's a good time.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Blackcyclops » 10 Feb 2020, 23:25

It still made more than John Wick 2 and that got a sequel...
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 11 Feb 2020, 00:37

John Wick 2 also cost less to make. BOP is a female-centric production, & Hollywood is always looking for excuses to shut women out.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 11 Feb 2020, 00:41

I once told someone I was planning to see it and I was met with a response of "It looks like a feminist movie so that's a hard pass for me." I'm just like...it's 2020 dude. What the fuck?

I do agree with EMP on Hollywood though. Unless this movie knocks it out of the park I doubt we'll see more of the Birds of Prey or Harley.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by WorldWideWade » 11 Feb 2020, 13:42

We'll see more Harley in Suicide Squad. I think the problem was that this movie didn't need to be rated R. The violence wasn't so gratuitous that it couldn't have been toned down for PG-13 and the cursing was over the top and not needed either IMO.

The demographic that responds to Harley the most tends to be a younger crowd so I think rating this as R was a misstep.

That being said, I wonder if WB will get cold feet on keeping Gunn's Suicude Squad as rated R now.
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Post by Nu-D » 11 Feb 2020, 16:37

The thing is, I don’t care if there’s a sequel to this.

Hollywood knows female superheroes can be lucrative. Hollywood knows women can direct massive superhero hits. They’ll keep churning them out and tinkering with the formula.

I’ll save my pennies for particular properties I’m interested in.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by manuel_mc89 » 11 Feb 2020, 16:54

Guys, I LOVED THIS, was waiting for a thread here, really IT IS FUN, the action sequences in particular are very creative and well done, more women need to direct this type of films because the fights were just great.

My one gripe is that that wasnt Cass, it was anyo ohter charachter, other than that, perfect.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 11 Feb 2020, 20:46

First, Rusty Collins and now Cassandra Cain. I guess they just REALLY wanted the cameo because I don't understand this "make a character and change pretty much everything about them so they're completely unrecognizable" thing they're doing.
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Post by EvilMonkeyPope » 11 Feb 2020, 22:24

Hollywood knows female superheroes can be lucrative. Hollywood knows women can direct massive superhero hits. They’ll keep churning them out and tinkering with the formula.
Do they though? For the longest time the only superheroine movies (Supergirl, Tank Girl, Catwoman, Josie & the Pussycats) were flops. Wonder Woman was still considered risky before finally opening. Captain Marvel did much better than expected, but I'm not sure how it would've fared without the Marvel Studios brand momentum. Meanwhile Alita, the Charlie's Angel's reboot, & the new Terminator fizzled. I can definitely see Hollywood seeing WW & CM as outliers. Even after the Hunger Games did boffo business, there wasn't suddenly a glut of female led action films. (They kind of gave up halfway through Divergent.) You can expand this further & wonder why there hasn't been an uptick in black superhero movies following Black Panther's success.

BOP is a rarity in that it's written, directed, & produced by women. Hollywood doesn't give women a chance to do action movies unless they star superheroines. So even though the superhero movie trend is healthy, women aren't being afforded the same opportunities to make them.

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Post by Magik84 » 12 Feb 2020, 12:25

It is only three years that female led superhero movies have been given a chance, so there is probably still a need to support this films to get more female led/ directed etc. movies, same for POC as well like EMP says why hasn't there been more of these films since Black Panther's success.

I enjoyed BoP, I can see how some people might find Harley Quinn an annoying character and is not to everyone's taste, but I thought Margot Robbie did a great job. My fave character was Huntress, would have liked to have seen more of her, she probably got the most laugh out load moments for me! Great fight choreography, solid plot, lots of fun (so much better than Suicide Squad). Also while it was women teaming up and fighting men, I felt it wasn't a forced, in your face "girl power" moment like in Endgame.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 12 Feb 2020, 13:14

I think it helps that the Birds of Prey are an established team in comics so people were already familiar with the idea. It was less "look! girl power!" and more "we made a comic movie that starred this team of characters" instead.

Thinking more of this movie. I'd argue Deadpool is FUNNIER, but Birds of Prey had more than just comedy.
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Post by Nu-D » 14 Feb 2020, 02:02

I’ll go see Black Widow twice to make up for skipping this. WW1984 too.

Edit: actually, I’ll have a week old newborn when BW is released. I might not make it to the theater, which is disappointing, but I don’t think I’m allowed a frowny-face for that.
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Post by EphemeristX » 14 Feb 2020, 18:15

BW is way more important than some baby.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Nu-D » 14 Feb 2020, 18:46

EphemeristX wrote:
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BW is way more important than some baby.
I don’t disagree, but there’s a reasonable chance I could end up homeless if I stated that without my pseudonym.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Blackcyclops » 14 Feb 2020, 19:58

Nu-D wrote:
14 Feb 2020, 18:46
EphemeristX wrote:
14 Feb 2020, 18:15
BW is way more important than some baby.
I don’t disagree, but there’s a reasonable chance I could end up homeless if I stated that without my pseudonym.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 15 Feb 2020, 00:02

Nu-D wrote:
14 Feb 2020, 18:46
EphemeristX wrote:
14 Feb 2020, 18:15
BW is way more important than some baby.
I don’t disagree, but there’s a reasonable chance I could end up homeless if I stated that without my pseudonym.
I'll see it an extra time for you.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by XtremeOne1 » 15 Feb 2020, 15:17

Bring the baby to the theater. Everyone loves that guy!

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Post by Magik84 » 15 Feb 2020, 17:59

XtremeOne1 wrote:
15 Feb 2020, 15:17
Bring the baby to the theater. Everyone loves that guy!
Are baby screenings just a uk thing? Where they specifically keep the volume down a bit, low lights and its for as everyone has baby, all know the chance may be disturbed, though in my experience most just sleep!

I took my daughter to one of the Guardians of Galaxy vol. 2 screenings when she was a month old and she slept pretty much the whole time.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Anna Raven » 15 Feb 2020, 20:23

Magik84 wrote:
15 Feb 2020, 17:59
XtremeOne1 wrote:
15 Feb 2020, 15:17
Bring the baby to the theater. Everyone loves that guy!
Are baby screenings just a uk thing? Where they specifically keep the volume down a bit, low lights and its for as everyone has baby, all know the chance may be disturbed, though in my experience most just sleep!

I took my daughter to one of the Guardians of Galaxy vol. 2 screenings when she was a month old and she slept pretty much the whole time.
I've heard of such things but they are usually during the day, and it's usually a smaller theater chain that offers them.

Personally, I am a huge fan of the Alamo Drafthouse which will kick loud and annoying customers out of a showing. They also make really humorous warning ads before the movie like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3eeC2lJZs
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Anna Raven » 17 Feb 2020, 21:40

I went to see it this afternoon. It was a funny, good solid action flick. Probably 3rd favorite of the DC movies released so far.
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by tokenBG1009 » 17 Feb 2020, 23:00

Anna Raven wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 21:40
I went to see it this afternoon. It was a funny, good solid action flick. Probably 3rd favorite of the DC movies released so far.
Wonder Woman and Aquaman before it?
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Re: Birds of Prey: Harley Quinn

Post by Anna Raven » 17 Feb 2020, 23:57

tokenBG1009 wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 23:00
Anna Raven wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 21:40
I went to see it this afternoon. It was a funny, good solid action flick. Probably 3rd favorite of the DC movies released so far.
Wonder Woman and Aquaman before it?
Yes.
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