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Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Wings » 16 Jan 2019, 15:42

Justice, like lightning.......

Welcome to the Thunderbolts Draft! The Thunderbolts are a team with a wide history, oscillating between heroic reformed characters to anti-heroes to outright villains and back again alongside a changing membership since the genesis of Baron Zemo’s initial scheme to replace the fallen Avengers and Fantastic Four with his new Masters of Evil. This Draft will allow you to put together your own incarnation of this infamous group. I’ll be allowing for a player cap of 20 players for this draft.


The Thunderbolts have a long history of betrayals and cases of mistaken intent and identity. In order to reflect that tempestuous characteristic of the team dynamic I have added the following additions to the typical draft structure. This draft will be serpentine, and will consist of 10 Rounds. I will randomize an order for players for Round 1. At the end of the draft each player will have a roster of 10 characters. It will be down to you to decide where your team lies morally. Whether they’re mercenaries for hire, prisoners of the government, on the run from the law, the decision is in your hands. Detailed below are the additional rules I’ve added to the normal draft structure.


Double Agent: During Round 6, each player will choose a character another player has already chosen. This character will then be revealed to be a Double Agent, working as part of one of the other teams. This is essentially a version of the Loan rule used by Cable in the X-Men: Editorial Edition Draft, with a Thunderbolts twist. The players who share ownership of the character can decide amongst themselves whether the character in question has an allegiance to one team in particular and is acting as an infiltrator/mole or whether they are merely on two teams at once ala Wolverine., or even a combination thereof.

See here for a description of how the rule works: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8412

Mistaken Identity: Your favourite obscure villain isn’t on the list? You like villains but would like a few more blue-collar heroes around to play them off against? Then this ability is for you. Or maybe you’ll just be cursing me for robbing someone away from you. During any round of the draft, a player may choose a character on the list, and then must choose another character to impersonate them. The character doing the impersonation MUST NOT be a character you can draft. The Mistaken Identity can only be used ONCE and must be used by each player during the draft. Mistaken Identity characters are also immune to being selected in the Double Agent round.

For example: A player might choose to draft Bullseye as their Mistaken Identity pick. This player has a cool idea to do a role-reversal of Bullseye’s impersonation of Hawkeye (Clint Barton) during his time on the Dark Avengers. However as Clint Barton is on the Draft List, he cannot be chosen to impersonate Bullseye. The player chooses to draft Lady Bullseye instead and have Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) to be their Mistaken Identity pick, as Kate Bishop is not on the draft list. Thus, the player’s team will not feature Lady Bullseye but Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) masquerading as Lady Bullseye. Other players will not be able to draft the character who your chosen Mistaken Identity pick is masquerading as, they will be crossed off the list as normal.

If during the draft you will be absent for a period of a few days, send me a PM with a shortlist of characters you would like and I will pick the one closest to the top of the shortlist who remains available on your turn. Try and make sure that you’ll be able to take your turn, so as not to hold up other players.

We are currently on Round 9


Players
grief
hotknives
Cable
Gibbering Fool

BlackCyclops
das_boot
Anna Raven
Spectral Knight
OffDaCheney
bamf
ev_82
MartijnB
WorldWideWade




Characters

Abominatrix
Ai Apaec
Ajaxis
Alkhema
Ant-Man (Eric O’Grady)
Aqueduct
Arachne (Julia Carpenter)
Arclight (Marauders)
Asp
Atlas (Erik Josten)
Baron Zemo (Helmut Zemo)
Batroc the Leaper
Beetle (Janice Lincoln)
Beetle (Abner Jenkins)
Beetles (Gary Quinn, Joaquim Robichaux, Elizabeth Vaughn)
Bellona (Kinney)
Blackbird
Black Cat
Blacklash
Black Mamba
Black Mariah
Black Swan
Black Widow (Natasha Romanova)
Black Widow (Yelena Belova)
Blizzard
Bloodstrike
Bombshell
Boomerang
Bulldozer
Bullseye
Bushmaster
Calypso
Carmella Uniscione
Centurius
Charcoal
Chimera
Cobalt Man
Crimson Cowl (Justine Hammer)
Crossbones
Cyclone (Pierre Fresson)
Daken
Dansen Macabre
Deadpool
Death Adder
Destiny
Diamondback
Doctor Doom
Doctor Minerva
Doctor Octopus
Doctor Spectrum (Alice Nugent)
Domino
Dragoness
Dragonfly
Dragonrider
Eel
Elektra
Emma Frost
Enchantress
Fer de Lance
Fixer
Frenzy
Genis-Vell
Ghost
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
Grizzly
Gypsy Moth
Hala The Accuser
Harrier
Hawkeye (Clint Barton)
Headsman
Hela
Hyperion (Squadron Sinister)
Impala
Ion
lronclad
Iron Maiden
Jack O’ Lantern
Jester
Jolt
Joystick
Juggernaut
Killer Shrike
Kimura
King Cobra
Knockout
Kobik
Kraven the Hunter (Ana Kravinoff)
Kraven the Hunter (Sergei Kravinoff)
Kwannon
Lady Bullseye
Lady Deathstrike
Lady Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
Lady Stilt-Man
Leader (Samuel Sterns)

Loki
Lorelei
Lucia Von Bardas
Luke Cage
Machete
Madame Masque
Malice (Marauders)
Man-Killer
Man-Thing
Marrow

Mastermind( Martinique Wyngarde)
Mercy
Mindblast
Mister Hyde
Mister X
Mongoose
Moonstone (Karla Sofen)
Morganna Le Fey
Mystique
Nebula
Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond)
Nightshade
Noh-Varr
Nuke (Frank Simpson)
Ogre
Outlaw
Overmind
Ox
Paladin
Penance (Robbie Baldwin)
Phantazia
Piledriver
Plantman
Porcupine
Primus
Psionex ( Coronary, Mathemanic, Pretty Persuasions)
Punisher
Quicksand
Radioactive Man
Ragnarok
Rattler
Red Hulk (Thaddeus Ross)

Red Peril
Red Ronin
Ruby Thursday
Salamandra
Sapphire Styx
Satana
Scarecrow
Scorpia
Scream
Screwball
Shatterax
Shocker
Shriek
Silk Fever
Silver Sable
Sin
Skarr
Slyde
Smiling Tiger
Smuggler (Conrad Josten)
Snake Marston
Snapdragon
Songbird
Southpaw
Speed Demon
Stained Glass Scarlet
Superia
Swordsman (Andreas Von Strucker)
Tanalth the Pursuer
Taskmaster
Tatterdemalion
Tempo
Terminatrix
Texas Twister
The Maker
Thunderball
Titania
Toxie Doxie
Trickshot (Barney Barton)
Troll
Typhoid Mary
Unicorn
Vantage
Vapor
Vector
Venom (Flash Thompson)
Venom (Mac Gargan)
Vermin
Vertigo (Marauders)
Victoria Hand
Viper
Volcana
Whiplash
Whirlwind
White Rabbit
Winter Soldier
Wraith (Yuri Watanabe)
Wrecker
X-Ray
Yellowjacket
Zaladane
Zaran
Zero/One


Mistaken Identity
Spectral Knight- Steve Rogers (as Baron Helmut Zemo)
Anna Raven- Marc Spector/Moon Knight (as Kraven the Hunter)
das_boot- Kate Bishop/Hawkeye (as Lady Bullseye)
Blackcyclops- Clay Quartermain (as Red Hull)
hotknives--Sharon Carter/Agent 13 (as Madame Masque)
grief-Lily Holister (as Scream)
bamf- Nick Fury Sr (as Paladin)
Cable- Foolkiller, Solo and Terror (as Beetles)
MartijnB- Flint Marko/Sandman (as Quicksand)
WorldWideWade- Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman (as Black Swan)
Gibbering Fool- K'lrt the Super-Skrull (as Salamandra)
ev_82- Lorna Dane/Polaris (as Zaladane)

Double Agent
WorldWideWade- Loki Laufeysdottir/Lady Loki
MartijnB- Clint Barton/Hawkeye
ev_82- Emma Frost/ The Black King
bamf- Felicia Hardy/Black Cat
OffDaCheney- Cáin Marko/Juggernaut
Spectral Knight- Rachel Leighton/Diamondback
Anna Raven- Neena Thurman/Domino
das_boot-Ghost
Blackcyclops- Hyperion (Squadron Sinister)
) Daken
Cable- Natasha Romanova/Black Widow
hotknives- Hela Lokisdottir/ Hela
grief- Julia Carpenter/Arachne
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Anna Raven » 16 Jan 2019, 16:13

I'll sign up for this.
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by hotknives » 16 Jan 2019, 16:40

Ooh, yes please
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by MartijnB » 16 Jan 2019, 16:53

I want to be in!

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Cable » 16 Jan 2019, 17:01

I'm in
Best Comics of Week 12

X-titles: X-treme X-Men #4 by Chris Claremont (2) and Salvador Larroca (2)
Non-X titles: Monica Rambeau Photon #4 by Eve Ewing (1) and Luca Maresca (1)

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by bamf » 16 Jan 2019, 17:02

I'll play!
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Blackcyclops » 16 Jan 2019, 17:39

ALL IN!
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
-Cly

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by OffDaCheney » 16 Jan 2019, 19:43

I'll join please.
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by WorldWideWade » 16 Jan 2019, 20:23

Cool, can't wait to start!
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by grief » 16 Jan 2019, 23:23

Definitely in this one!
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Spectral Knight » 18 Jan 2019, 18:17

For clarification purposes, does the Mistaken Identity pick have to be plausible? For example, it wouldn't be prudent to have Nightcrawler masquerade as Songbird?

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Cable » 18 Jan 2019, 18:33

I'm having Galactus masquerade as Punisher. Uses guns to take down the mob.
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Wings » 18 Jan 2019, 22:06

With regards to the Mistaken Identity, yeah, I'm willing to allow whoever you want as long as you have (a) a motivation in mind for the Mistaken Identity character to impersonate the character in question (b) can formulate how they disguise themselves as said character (voice modulators, image inducers, modified uses of their powers, surgery, etc)

Basically, as a mod, all I need to see is that there's a reason for them to take on the identity. The disguise doesn't have to be flawless but show that the character is going to some kind of effort to disguise their true identity even if you envisage the disguise failing at some point.

So as an example if Cable really wants Galactus to pretend to be the Punisher he'd just need to come up with a reason for Galactus to do so, and plausible means by which he could do so. (For example: the Power Cosmic)
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Gibbering Fool » 19 Jan 2019, 12:48

Sweet, you already have me on the list. Great :D

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by das_boot » 20 Jan 2019, 18:37

IN!
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Wings » 21 Jan 2019, 20:09

And added :)
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Spectral Knight » 25 Jan 2019, 11:53

I'm excited for this one. Also, have zero conceptions about what kind of book / roster I want to put together, unlike the last two.

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Wings » 25 Jan 2019, 23:50

The stage is set, let the draft begin!


Players
grief
hotknives
Cable
Gibbering Fool

BlackCyclops
das_boot
Anna Raven
Spectral Knight
OffDaCheney
bamf
ev_82
Jazzkantine
MartijnB
WorldWideWade




Characters

Abominatrix
Ai Apaec
Ajaxis
Alkhema
Ant-Man (Eric O’Grady)
Aqueduct
Arachne (Julia Carpenter)
Arclight (Marauders)
Asp
Atlas (Erik Josten)
Baron Zemo (Helmut Zemo)
Batroc the Leaper
Beetle (Janice Lincoln)
Beetle (Abner Jenkins)
Beetles (Gary Quinn, Joaquim Robichaux, Elizabeth Vaughn)
Bellona (Kinney)
Blackbird
Black Cat
Blacklash
Black Mamba
Black Mariah
Black Swan
Black Widow (Natasha Romanova)
Black Widow (Yelena Belova)
Blizzard
Bloodstrike
Bombshell
Boomerang
Bulldozer
Bullseye
Bushmaster
Calypso
Carmella Uniscione
Centurius
Charcoal
Chimera
Cobalt Man
Crimson Cowl (Justine Hammer)
Crossbones
Cyclone (Pierre Fresson)
Daken
Dansen Macabre
Deadpool
Death Adder
Destiny
Diamondback
Doctor Doom
Doctor Minerva
Doctor Octopus
Doctor Spectrum (Alice Nugent)
Domino
Dragoness
Dragonfly
Dragonrider
Eel
Elektra
Emma Frost
Enchantress
Fer de Lance
Fixer
Frenzy
Genis-Vell
Ghost
Ghost Rider (Johnny Blaze)
Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
Grizzly
Gypsy Moth
Hala The Accuser
Harrier
Hawkeye (Clint Barton)

Headsman
Hela
Hyperion (Squadron Sinister)
Impala
Ion
Ironclad
Iron Maiden
Jack O’ Lantern
Jester
Jolt
Joystick
Juggernaut
Killer Shrike
Kimura
King Cobra
Knockout
Kobik
Kraven the Hunter (Ana Kravinoff)
Kraven the Hunter (Sergei Kravinoff)
Kwannon
Lady Bullseye
Lady Deathstrike
Lady Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
Lady Stilt-Man
Leader (Samuel Sterns)
Loki
Lorelei
Lucia Von Bardas
Luke Cage
Machete
Madame Masque
Malice (Marauders)
Man-Killer
Man-Thing
Marrow
Mastermind( Martinique Wyngarde)
Mercy
Mindblast
Mister Hyde
Mister X
Mongoose
Moonstone (Karla Sofen)
Morganna Le Fey
Mystique
Nebula
Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond)
Nightshade
Noh-Varr
Nuke (Frank Simpson)
Ogre
Outlaw
Overmind
Ox
Paladin
Penance (Robbie Baldwin)
Phantazia
Piledriver
Plantman
Porcupine
Primus
Psionex ( Coronary, Mathemanic, Pretty Persuasions)
Punisher
Quicksand
Radioactive Man
Ragnarok
Rattler
Red Hulk (Thaddeus Ross)
Red Peril
Red Ronin
Ruby Thursday
Salamandra
Sapphire Styx
Satana
Scarecrow
Scorpia
Scream
Screwball
Shatterax
Shocker
Shriek
Silk Fever
Silver Sable
Sin
Skarr
Slyde
Smiling Tiger
Smuggler (Conrad Josten)
Snake Marston
Snapdragon
Songbird
Southpaw
Speed Demon
Stained Glass Scarlet
Superia
Swordsman (Andreas Von Strucker)
Tanalth the Pursuer
Taskmaster
Tatterdemalion
Tempo
Terminatrix
Texas Twister
The Maker
Thunderball
Titania
Toxie Doxie
Trickshot (Barney Barton)
Troll
Typhoid Mary
Unicorn
Vantage
Vapor
Vector
Venom (Flash Thompson)
Venom (Mac Gargan)
Vermin
Vertigo (Marauders)
Victoria Hand
Viper
Volcana
Whiplash
Whirlwind
White Rabbit
Winter Soldier
Wraith (Yuri Watanabe)
Wrecker
X-Ray
Yellowjacket
Zaladane
Zaran
Zero/One


Mistaken Identity
Spectral Knight- Steve Rogers (as Baron Helmut Zemo)
Jazzkantine- Sharon Ventura (as Titania)
das_boot- Kate Bishop/Hawkeye (as Lady Bullseye)
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by grief » 26 Jan 2019, 20:59

There's a LOT of good there, but I think I'm going to go for Silver Sable as my opening pick.

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Blackcyclops » 26 Jan 2019, 21:02

The first pick sets the tone!
So on one hand we have the existence of a being who can reset the entire timeline, destroying everything…, and on the other hand we have a few mind wipes and some gaslighting. You're right, totally evenly weighted.
-Cly

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Jazzkantine » 26 Jan 2019, 21:29

+ erased because of incompetence +
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Gibbering Fool » 26 Jan 2019, 21:38

Jazzkantine wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:29
Ha, I waited the whole day because I wanted to be nice and not mess up the order :lol:
If it is ok that I pick one?
Jazzkantine its not your turn. Take look at the player list on the first post. That's the order we chose in. You're after ev_82. Well down the list

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Jazzkantine » 26 Jan 2019, 21:49

Gibbering Fool wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:38
Jazzkantine wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:29
Ha, I waited the whole day because I wanted to be nice and not mess up the order :lol:
If it is ok that I pick one?

A lotta nonsense
Jazzkantine its not your turn. Take look at the player list on the first post. That's the order we chose in. You're after ev_82. Well down the list
Sorry, I missed the new order. Thanks for noticing.

Of course my pick is back in the main pool for everyone to pick.
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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Gibbering Fool » 26 Jan 2019, 22:37

Jazzkantine wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:49
Gibbering Fool wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:38
Jazzkantine wrote:
26 Jan 2019, 21:29
Ha, I waited the whole day because I wanted to be nice and not mess up the order :lol:
If it is ok that I pick one?
Jazzkantine its not your turn. Take look at the player list on the first post. That's the order we chose in. You're after ev_82. Well down the list
Sorry, I missed the new order. Thanks for noticing.

Of course my pick is back in the main pool for everyone to pick.
No problem, you must have been going off the sign up list order. I've editted my post so people can't see who you wanted to pick. I suggest you do the same with any of your posts with quotes in them :D

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Re: Thunderbolts Draft

Post by Gibbering Fool » 27 Jan 2019, 13:12

Hi Wings. It may be worth sending a PM to everyone to tell them all the game has started

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