I was using segregation by its dictionary term, which as you rightly say is unbiased.Blackcyclops wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:20Well using the word “segregation” when talking about Krakoa. Segregation is on the surface an agnostic word and has a dictionary definition that is unbiased...but it has a heavy connotation in the real world. Segregation in the real world is almost always created by those in power (either explicitly or implicitly) as a means of control and power exertion.
Krakoa isn’t that. Setting aside the weird scifi stuff, at the heart of Krakoa is the assertion of a peoplehood (a humanity) for a minority group. It’s about giving people an opportunity to live without the fear of hatred and discrimination. Now obviously it isn’t perfect and there as flaws in that approach. But there are equally flaws in the old approach of respectability politics and worrying about what the humans think and being good so as not to upset the humans.
Now, my point was that, to put it bluntly, for me being a Black man (or EphX for being someone who doesn’t sit firmly on the heterosexual quadrant) I can empathize and even see the utility in this framework for the mutants to be taking. In the real world there are way more reasons, in my mind, to not use that approach BUT in the MU and the futures Moira saw, it’s alot harder ignore that this option (while not perfect) seems alot more sensible than it seems. And that going the other way really never accomplished much...
But that’s basically what me and a few others have been arguing about this direction since DoX started...
There is no way that you can really look at Krakoa as a country and its societal frameworks and it not be considered segregation. It is a separation of humanity based on the presence of the X-Gene. The ressurection protocols are reserved for mutants. It is segregation. There is the argument that the exertion of power by Krakoa (the leverage of the flower drugs, Emma ever-rising the free will of someone to get what they wanted) also turns the power imbalance on its head.
We could argue the toss over whether it is the right approach for the safety of mutantkind but whether it is the right approach or not doesn't change what it fundamentally is, especially when combined with the proclamations on panel.
I have no idea if my "social location" (a term I had never really heard before but which I guess refers to a multi-dimensional set of co-ordinates based on an array of characteristics) geared the labelling of segregation as "segregation". Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, but given that *I* don't know if it did, to assume it did because of my social location seems a little presumptuous as there could be someone in pretty much the same social location as myself who would use a different similar word/sequence of words.
And to be clear, my point wasn't about the appropriateness of the new way, which we've discussed in the past, but that the discourse shown on panel from HoX/PoX onwards was, for Jean, a 180° pivot from the message she was trying to communicate to the world in Taylor's run.
I hope, for the logic of storytelling in continuous fiction the reason for this pivot is revealed o give it context. Charles's pivot / change of approach was given context by the revelations in that series, but he hasn't shared those with the rest of the QC, other than Mags as far as I understand, even keeping Moira's past and continued life a secret, and so for Jean specifically I don't get it. Is she simply resorting back to following Xavier without independent consideration...or is there something screwier going which is limiting resistance to the Krakoan herd (my belief at the moment).